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dastanktal

@ dastanktal @lemmy.ml

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Mostly on Hexbear.

Free Palestine!

Baby Marxist. Feral debater. Will continue to "argue" as long as you give attention.

I return in kind the energy sent to me.

Libs be prepared 😈

  • Alabama toddler dies in hot car while in state custody

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  • The irony of claiming I didn't read a link that is paywalled is hilarious, especially considering that you didn't read my comment very carefully, considering that I said she should be judged by the courts.

    Those parents are charged, which is what I said should happen to the social worker. And I didn't move the goalpost, I pointed out that 58% of parents are charged based on this study that you clearly didn't look at.

    Your lack of empathy is showing because you cannot possibly imagine the amount of pain that these parents are going through and the type of justice that they will need. Not only do they need to be made whole by her, they need to be made whole by the state. She was grossly negligent in forgetting a child in the car when there are multiple, multiple things that you can do in order to prevent that. Especially as somebody who is a state representative who of child safety. Forgive me for wanting to hold these people to a higher standard than you.

    I'm gonna follow the case enough to know that if she was charged, if she is charged, that's good enough for me. As I said, this is a matter for the courts to decide, not to blokes on lemmy. We have a justice system in our society, and so, despite how shit it is, I want her to go through it, because that is how these parents will be made whole.

    Putting people in jail generally serves as a deterrent and you would know that if you've done any sort of research on prison punishment and the abolition of such. Generally putting people in prison or jail is to encourage people to not make the same mistakes, which I think is needed. If this person gets a slap on the wrist, then it's showing that the state doesn't actually care what happens to your children in state custody and others may potentially be more careless since they know they're not gonna go to jail if they make such a mistake.

    Regardless, I think this person should be charged. The study I linked shows that there is a one in two chance that this person will be charged, or a 58% chance. And if she is charged, there's a chance that she will go to prison, or jail, for gross negligence since the major function of her job is to ensure child's safety and not ensuring that child's safety is gross negligence.

    As far as the punishment this person will receive, it'll be up to the judge and the jury to decide. I do know that if they don't charge this person that I will be one of the first people out there protesting that decision.

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  • Revenge and retribution are not the same thing. Retribution is getting justice so the person feels made more whole. Vengeance/revenge is destroying the actor who committed the action.

    We don't have a society that rehabilitates other, we only have a system that jails people, and unfortunately for her, that is what I think should happen.

    Yes, I know that gross negligence has a legal definition, and I'm using it specifically in this case because a CPS worker negligently left a child in her hot car for hours while she went on personal errands. All she had to do was look in her rearview mirror to see the child. Put a sticky note on the fucking steering wheel. She could have done a number of things differently to ensure the child's still alive.

    As for atoning for this person's mistakes, they can atone from jail, where they can also serve out community service. Ultimately, this is for a court to decide which I think is the most appropriate as I don't think we'll see eye to eye on this one.

    For instance this would have made a significant difference

    In the report, NSC also issues recommendations for parents and caregivers including leaving a purse or cell phone in the backseat so they are reminded to check the back before leaving the vehicle.

    https://www.nsc.org/newsroom/just-21-states-protect-children-hot-cars

    You're also wrong that parents aren't often charged. According to this study, 58% of parents who leave their child in a hot car face charges after the fact.

    They also note authorities pursued criminal charges in 58% of cases.

    https://journalistsresource.org/health/child-dead-left-hot-car-research/#%3A%7E%3Atext=Researchers+analyzed+541+cases+of

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  • I am just not sure tossing them in jail does anyone any good

    Mistakes do happen, but when mistakes happen, we don't let somebody off the hook. There are multiple studies that confirm that humans need some amount of retribution so that they feel something was done to address the inappropriateness of the action. This is not just a mistake, a child died because of the ineptitude of this worker.

    The quality of people for this job is already significantly reduced due to the abusive situation they often have to work in, the extreme lack of benefits, and the extremely low pay. This person facing punishment isn't going to reduce the amount of applicants for this position because those applicants aren't applying because they like the job, they're applying because they feel a higher call.

    Just because there should have been two people doesn't mean you let the person that negligently killed a child off the hook. I can be angry at the state for not supplying enough resources for these cps workers, but I can also be angry at this particular person for allowing a child to die in a hot car. I failed to see, by the way, how that could be anything other than gross negligence.

    Furthermore, parents often have to deal with their child on a one-on-one scenario where this does happen to them, and it's still not an excuse for that to happen, and those parents do get charged, and if they have other kids, CPS does get involved.

    So to recap, this worker was put in a situation that parents face all the time and negligingly forgot a child in a hot car. Even if it was not done maliciously, that does not excuse her actions, and she should face retribution for the consequences of her actions. And then you're defending that we shouldn't want retribution from this person because that might put people off from working in child protective services?

    I think your empathy may be blinding you here, comrade.

  • Silver lining: Everest gets a bit taller with every dump left behind.

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  • They're mad about all of the human shit? What about all of the human bodies?

  • Alabama toddler dies in hot car while in state custody

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  • Nah, fuck this opinion. Parents are required to be good parents regardless of how they're getting paid and somebody who has been entrusted to ensure the safety of a child regardless of how they're getting paid should do so in a way that does not ensure their death. When your entire job is child healthcare, forgetting a child in a hot car is completely inappropriate. Not only should they be blackballed from this industry, but they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

  • Lazy moochers

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  • There are studies recently released that show that the people who are buying houses 20 years ago are the same people buying houses today. It is a zero-sum game because nobody else is able to buy a house, especially not if they're younger.

  • Post on /r/Fediverse promoting it

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  • Mostly people who lurk that don't want to try and create their own community here and promote it other places.

  • The latest child to starve to death in Gaza weighed less than when she was born

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  • ‘It’s a Free Country’, Claims Police Officer Protecting Genocide-Denying Counter Protesters

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  • "its a free country" without the slightest sense of irony.

  • Southwest Airlines jet dives when collision alarms sound as a fighter jet crosses its path near Los Angeles | CNN

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  • It's actually worse than that. I don't think they're necessarily trained to, unless they have to.

    And they have entirely different rules since they follow compared to civilian aviation and they don't generally understand, like, the zoning or the air traffic lanes, which has resulted in really catastrophic accidents in the past.

    Could be wrong about this. It's off the top of my dome.

  • Capitalism

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  • Basically my journey

  • Moderator banned from their own community for practicing harassment

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  • Bummer. Will have to go read the links

  • “You can't be expected to have a successful AI program when every article, book or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for”, President Trump says

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  • Creative Title

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  • Bad press?

  • Moderator banned from their own community for practicing harassment

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  • Hahah pifed wants none of that smoke. Man that's hilarious

  • Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia

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  • Yeah, I wasn't really sure of his reasoning here, but I don't think it was very good to begin with.

    Unfortunately, we already know that he has way too much power for a private citizen.

    I think in 2022, he still had some fans, he hadn't quite ruined his image all the way yet, even though most of us could see the writing on the wall. It sucks you got jumped for that, though.

    I'm in the "We should Nationalize Starlink without giving him a dime" camp as recompense for this crime.

  • Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia

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  • Oh, I remember hearing about this in 2022. There was a ton of speculation about this. I'm glad it's been confirmed.

    Hoping one day the MuskRat finds himself behind bars.

  • Moderator banned from their own community for practicing harassment

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  • I went and browsed that community and it's just full of gold.

  • Moderator banned from their own community for practicing harassment

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  • He could be figuring stuff out but man they are abrasive.

    He gonna grind through a ton of people before he figures anything out