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  • That’s what a lot of this comes down to. Loneliness. Disconnection. No sense of value or direction. And then someone online tells you it’s not your fault, it’s women’s fault, or society’s fault, or anyone but you. That stuff spreads fast because it gives people something to belong to.

    Yep, and this is how marginalised communities are formed. Same with the text below.

    That’s what a lot of this comes down to. Loneliness. Disconnection. No sense of value or direction. And then someone online tells you it’s not your fault, it’s women’s men's fault, or society’s fault, or anyone but you. That stuff spreads fast because it gives people something to belong to.

    And is why both POV are bad and should be removed from Lemmy. The owners of such communities get off on having their own army, not that they think they're helping the cause.

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  • we should change our own environments so that they don’t feel the need anymore to have their own space.

    "we" unequivocally means "men", right? And how is this done... by preventing exclusive communities and only having inclusive communities. "Online" and "safe spaces" are oxymorons.

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  • Women are the big spenders online.

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  • Women: it's all about us, we have our own "online safe spaces" where only women are allowed because in history, men were bad to women, It's filled with vitriolic chronically-online women where we go around calling men "cunts". Men should respect this and start up their own community if they want.

    Men:

    <they do that>

    . It's given a derogatory name so public opinion can be manipulated - marketing 101.

    Women: We don't like it. It's not all about us, men are bad to us. They threaten equality - it's all their fault.

    I got banned from two communities on Lemmy recently asking if it really should be host to communities that are exclusionary based on protected characteristics such as gender (to stop extremism). Lots of women moaned and were vitriolically abusive - how dare I call their army out. Community hosts really need to get a grip on such things and encourage inclusionary communities, not exclusionary. Whilst this practice goes on, racist/sexist/other extremist opinions will be fostered on the host and in those communities.

    Politics such as "yeah, well, populist opinion makes us feel like we need to separate ourselves from you because you're not

    <insert protected characteristic we only like>

    ..." but we totally respect you and want to talk to you as normal in other communities when we want to, is incongruent to the whole concept of an inclusive community that fosters equality such as Lemmy should be.

    (And if I had to guess, I think there are some bots on Lemmy also spouting vitriolic replies to stir up such hatred amogst these who isolate themselves - making themselves prime targets for manipulation - all to stir up chaos on a national level)

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  • Sure, people generally buy such property as a labour of love (and to show off), and not as your regular two-up, two-down!

  • Thanks, when I get some time soon, I'll have another look at it and cherry ai with a local install of ollama

  • I think the more creatures we discover down there, the greater pace science will advance. Unless we do the homo sapien thing and kill them all.

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  • Yep, in England, "listed building" status and depending on the level, you have to also have specific tradespeople in to do work and you have to maintain it to a certain standard. You don't really own such buildings, you merely become the custodian and look after them.

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  • but all that kitty poop that would lie undiscovered for months!

  • But read, learn, understand what? Do you really think the problem you claim women need the space is because (presumably men, the alleged oppressors) don't "understand" women and if only they'd take time to read and understand women it would all be ok?

  • This is a sweepingly broad statement that you're twisting to your own advantage.

  • So many "marginalised" women throwing insults around like candy. Maybe these people feel they're marginalised because they already hate men and men avoid them?

    You miss the point. A "positive men's space on Lemmy" would explicitly ban women. not "hate speech". Maybe you seem like a bit of a dunce?

  • I would agree with you but I don't think women are marginalised in my society. They may feel as if they are though because they're generally told they are. I will accept Muslim women are but most who I know actually accept being told what to do and not do and the abuse they receive. Less of the personal insults, huh?

  • Are women considered marginalised communities outside the minds of feminists?

  • You're going to make an amazing, beautiful mother.

    Your vitriol makes you sound really bitter and hateful towards men. Groups like what I'm talking about strengthen your existing sexist opinions and make them more extreme, and in your mind, this hatred becomes normalised that you post things like the above.

    You have just proven why exclusive groups like this are bad for communities.

    (Though the entire response reads very gen-AI-ish)

  • This is the intelligent answer, not the facebook answer.

  • Why do you feel that you have the automatic right to insert yourself into a conversation that your opinion isn’t wanted in?

    Your opinion isn't wanted.

    Why are you not able to just accept this?

    Tough titties, kid.

  • If you want to discuss a similar topic, there’s nothing stopping you from posting about it in another community or making your own community/instance.

    But that's stupid.

  • I also think it’s fine that women have spaces that are just for them.

    Interesting? Why? So it becomes an echo chamber? Why not make the group private in that case? How about fake women profiles by men?