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  • lol no. But nice try. I applaud the attempt!

  • I think banning individual social media services is not the solution. The solution is to create meaningful laws that hold any company, Chinese or American, accountable for data privacy and misinformation/election interference violations.

    You, in a nutshell. You're saying that they shouldn't address specific threats. Why not both?

  • Yes. The Android app has some serious problems right now. Pixelix is probably the best Android app for now - though it has it's own rough edges. It's $2.99 in the Play store but free on F-Droid.

    Using them together, however, does make for one complete (but inconvenient) app.

    Edit: one of the worst Pixelix pain points was that notifications didn't actually link to the things it was notifying you about. This was just fixed in an update. The only thing you really lose out on is push notifications in the official app now.

  • I'm curious whether "can probably get away with it" is enough for them. And whether they'll take the risk for no reward whatsoever in the case of Apple and Google.

  • No, you're conflating privacy and espionage.

    I'm not moving the goal posts. The order for China to divest is about espionage. The ban stemming from their refusal to divest is about espionage. Your privacy law doesn't solve this problem because it's not a privacy problem, it's an espionage problem.

    To take your murder example, it's like saying 'I don't see why everyone's so worked up about China coming here and shooting people. People get shot here every day and the army doesn't get involved!' Despite sharing some details, domestic gun violence and war are different. You're focusing on the trees and missing the forest.

    🙂 perfect is the enemy of good

    I'm not opposed to your proposed law. I'd support the hell out of it. It would solve other important problems, even if it wouldn't solve this one. But saying that a country can't do anything about espionage unless they pass that law is unrealistic.

  • I'm way more interested in the reactions of Google, Apple, Oracle, and the dozens of other corporations ByteDance depends on.

    The "90-day extension" Trump keeps talking about has no basis in law except to conclude an in-process divestment, which currently doesn't exist. He can order the law not to be enforced, but you're still breaking the law. It'll interesting to see if those companies are willing to along with an executive order their counsel knows is illegal or are willing to knowingly break the law under the promise they won't be prosecuted (for now).

    edit: IANAL

  • You're conflating privacy and espionage. The reason basically every country in the world has laws about foreign ownership of media and telecommunications infrastructure is not because of privacy concerns -- it's because of the potential for espionage. That fanciful law with no chance of passing in the US (even if it should!) would reduce but not eliminate the problem. It's illegal for China to operate weird little secret police stations in foreign countries to threaten, intimidate, and control the Chinese diaspora, but that hasn't stopped them from doing it. Having them control powerful monitoring and tracking tools doesn't make it harder. They are very capable of surreptitiously doing shit they shouldn't.

  • Yes, which doesn't solve the problem because the problem is in China. The Chinese government can demand any information that ByteDance possesses. Under Chinese law, they are bound to comply and bound to deny that they were even asked under threat of extremely harsh punishment.

  • That wouldn't solve the problem because the Chinese government is not bound by US law in China.

  • This happens all the time. Almost every country has laws about foreign ownership of media and telecom. Here in Canada, Americans cannot come in and just buy up all the media companies. The consortium that bought my cell provider included a wealthy Egyptian national who was forced to divest before the sale could be finalized.

    China was forced to divest from Grindr in the US like five years ago for the exact same reasons.

    The only thing that's really weird here is that China is refusing to do so and would rather burn it to the ground than sell it. That's at least in part because having all that information - including granular tracking data - on 50% of the US population is an insanely powerful intelligence tool.

  • I don't think it should be a dilemma - but some do. I don't see why there can't be different corners of the Fediverse. This is my most isolated account here and I'm fine with that. I don't personally want or need integration with Mastodon. I'm glad mbin has that for people who do but I'm not interested in it. And I think it's kind of cool that there are different cultures within Fedi. Mastodon, Pixelfed, and Lemmy are all so different from each other and I don't think it's a problem to solve.

    I know the ActivityPub authors were concerned about Mastodon getting so big because it only implements a small portion of the AP spec. So they're stoked that others are building out in ways that expand beyond the needs of microblogging.

  • Don't make me show you the back of my hand

  • Yep!

    " Built by pixelfed. Proudly serving the fediverse since 2020. "

    Fedidb

  • Yeah, it's crazy. Same thing for Loops, FediDB, Sup, and his million other projects. He's a one man band right now. And he has a full-time job on top of that!

    I don't think that can go on for much longer with Pixelfed blowing up -- and they're still onboarding about 1000 people per hour. Just for moderating pixelfed.social, he said yesterday that he's received more reports in the last 48 hours than in the last 7 years. There's only so many hours in a day.

  • They do. I could be wrong, but I don't think Pixelfed supports groups yet so I don't think you can interact in a meaningful way. I looked you up from pixelfed.social. I can see your account and could follow you but Pixelfed only shows posts with attached media so I can't see any of your posts/comments.

  • A few of those projects just need to mature and have teams working on them, I think. There's nothing wrong with him bouncing around to different projects but it sucks that no one's working on Pixelfed if he isn't. It'd be great if he could secure enough funding for an additional paid dev on each of his major projects.