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  • This is from Senator Chuck Grassley, not Chuck Schumer

  • Pray that you didn’t end up in CECOT

  • “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

  • Once upon a time, this “political extremism“ used to just simply be called “being a decent human being“. How far we’ve fallen.

  • Probably because the population has never given a shit about crimes of their presidents

    That is an outright lie. Proof: I’m giving a shit right now, not that you give a shit. that’s like saying, all Jews approve of what Israel is doing, and that’s pretty fucking untrue as well.

    Americans are not a monolith. There’s 340 million of us. We don’t all agree on everything. You can’t put us all in the same box.

  • You can’t sling shit if no one will get near you

    Except, ironically, shit. But don’t be that person.

  • A character that looked like Jar Jar was eventually redeemed in a scene from the Mandalorian, so I guess I’d have to go with that.

  • Yeah, I was pretty lucky. I knew/ know a lot of people who had it much worse.

  • 12 or 13. but it took until I was 18 before I admitted it to myself and came out.

    the 90s were a different time.

  • the us producing more oil domestically than it ever has before-- so much so that we hardly know what to do with all of it.

    this isn't because the us needs it, it's because trump is an imperialistic cunt doing the bidding of his oil billionaire donors/bribers

  • the robot wars have begun

  • Shit, my bad, I didn’t realise that using a nuclear weapon instead was that much better

    he didn't use a nuclear weapon, either.

    since it changes the type of weapon from a Weapon of Mass Destruction that turns a planet inhospitable to a Weapon of Mass Destruction that turns a planet inhospitable.

    turning a planet inhospitable isn't the same as trying to kill all of the civilians living on that planet. and - yes - that does make a difference.

    So… Sisko behaved with the same level of disregard for sentient life as a terrorist?

    he didn't do that, either. he very well knew the maquis could easily evacuate, and knew they had a new planet to resettle afterward. and, before he fired the torpedos, he gave them every bit of warning.

    Not really. Attacking civilians is bad.

    nobody's arguing that here, and I've already stated - several times - that I agree.

    but the argument is "is it a war crime?". and you really haven't made your case. I remain unconvinced.

    is it a crime-- I already said that it probably is. should it be a war crime. probably. but is it a war crime? maybe, but I don't think we know enough to say. that's a question of Federation law, and we can't know the answer here.

  • Oh ok, as long as he didn’t throw the chemicals in their face, making the air they breathe toxic and fatal does not count as a chemical weapons attack.

    well, Sisko didn't use a chemical weapon-- he released radiogenic particles (trilithium) into the upper atmosphere which irradiated the planet. he also provided the inhabitants ample time to escape its effects. it didn't make the air poisonous. technically, it was Eddington who used a biological weapon one the Cardassian planet which did make their air toxic, and Sisko was responding to that.

    see, you're treating this like a black-and-white situation when it's all very morally gray. and I'm not arguing what Sisko did was right or moral-- I'm trying to say that you're trying to define a complex situation through the narrow lens of a legal technicality, and that we would need to know more about both Federation law and Sisko's intent and foreknowledge before making a judgement.

    so: is what Sisko did a crime? probably. would the Federation technically consider it a war crime? I don't think we know enough about the circumstances to say.

  • Strange coincidence that this all starts coming back as soon as the Epstein files are getting released…

  • But think of all the wonderful harmonizing you can do together!

  • … using chemical weapons (which is a war crime now), on civilians (warcrime now) ,

    eh... he didn't use the weapons on the civilians, he triggered their atmosphere to change, making the planet uninhabitable to humans. the intent was never to harm any of them, just to force them off the planet. these details are important. had he used a chemical weapon directly on the civilians, with the intent to cause them harm,, that would be a war crime.

    see, we're trying to apply contemporary mores and rules to a situation that couldn't possibly exist now. so... while I agree that it was a reprehensible act, does it rise to the level of a war crime? maybe, but the fact that it didn't - nor was it intended to - harm anyone, should be considered.

  • ooo... I dunno. there are a lot of factors to consider. The Ocampa situation, the interactions with the Kazon... Sisko & Co.'s proficiency in dealing with The Caretaker and his tech...

    honestly? all I know is that it would have gone very differently. possibly differently enough that the Caretaker's Array's dself-destruct might not have gotten damaged, or, another way, that they didn't retrieve their crewmembers from Ocompa, or were killed by the Kazon...

    I would like to have seen that play out, though.

  • I’m talking about bombing the planet full of Maquis colonists (civilians).

    well, nobody actually died (civilians), as they evacuated, and the maquis colonists and cardassians just switched planets as a result. does that count as a war crime in the 2370s in the Federation? I dunno.

    Also, falsifying evidence to rope a civilization into a war.

    not sure if that technically counts as a war crime. certainly a crime, but a war crime? dunno about that, either

    1. It was a bit stupid of her to try using poison to outsmart Dukat rather than just shoving him into the fire pits. But she was a coward, and poison is a coward’s weapon. So, really, no surprise there.
    2. Dukat was no longer a member of the Dominion at that point, nor the Cadassisn military, so it’s just murder, not a war crime.
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