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  • On that account, I'll go have a greek village salad with a warm Metaxa after work, at my local Greek restaurant. 😁

  • it's a childish tantrum.

    Only as long as he doesn't get the power to execute on it. 😅

  • Yup. And we'd have dealt with that democratically, without appearing undemocratic.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of the (mis)understanders of democracy who thinks what we have in Canada is an effective people's democracy. But if we're to improve material outcomes for people while still doing democracy, I think we need radically more democratic processes not less.

  • Wait, which part of this is sarcasm (/s)? 😄

  • I don't see how the CPC can continue to function as a party.

    That's my assesment too. There's a giant internal divide that's been sharpening ever since Harper unified the two parties. His majority gov't papered over it but the lack of any victory for over a decade has undone that. I think there's either going to be a split, or their vote share would decrease over time by means of the non-F voters leaving or not voting at all.

  • So are they going to pack the far-left, woke, DEI court now?

  • Yeah, I was initially leaning towards Rob as first pick and Avi second but I might swap.

  • It's good to see that most of us have a realistic assesment. The US is an obviously bigger threat to us than Russia, economically, militarily, interference, etc.

  • Excluding Yves Engler was a mistake.

  • That's a pretty good assesment. I'm tired so I can't write in kind but here's something to your effort.

    Going through with reforming the party as a bottom-up movement is extremely importantfor the long term success. Both Rob and Avi understand this from slightly diff perspective. Rob understands this from union organizing which is similar, where locals have a similar function. Avi on the other hand has the ideology - he's a democratic socialist. The principles, the why and the how of organizing real, bottom up democratic structures is baked into it. So I think both would be able to do the work but Avi probably has a more encompassing understanding of the domain. He also knows the socialist history of the NDP - he cites the CCF and Tommy Douglas explicitly. He never said "I" when referring to his leadership effort, he always said we and our. All of which speak to his commitment to the bottom-up approach.

    Tony made a critical related point about this - that mass media is never going to convey the message we need conveyed to our members. The CBC might try but will fail. Corporate media would actively mislead as the NDP doesn't further its interest. So we need our party to convey the messages to its members through the EDAs, so then the members can tell it to their neighbours as they understand it best. Just one of the extremely coherent points from the 74-year-old geezer on the stage.

    Why we haven't explored public options for groceries and such? Cause we got on the Thatcherite-Reaganite neolib ideological train. We sold off a shit ton of important pub corporations and we decided we ain't using that economic model to do new things. But that's just me ranting, I'm sure you knew that. 😊

  • Well at least we knew that's the bargain. It was never gonna be a win for working Canadians over Canadian corporations. It was always gonna be a fight between Canadian and US corporations, and hopefully having ours come on top a bit more than usual.

  • Good point. Still important who's first. How do you feel about the candidates?

  • Unless you believe in zero immigration which you absolutely have the right to, the material reasons for when immigration is bad for workers are the lesser workers rights they have and the shortage of housing and transit. Workers rights because unionized workplaces mean corpos can't pay a migrant less than a Canadian, therefore have little incentive to bring them in. And if they do so in a non-unionized workplace, the migrant worker has the economic means to switch jobs, which means the corpo has to pay them similar to Canadian labour. And housing and transit are about the only limited resources standing in the way from scaling up any Canadian town or city from its current size to virtually any size. If we get housing and transit building so that we don't have those constraints, and new people entering the economy aren't at permanent worker rights disadvantage, like new Canadian grownups aren't, then the economic effects should be more or less equivalent to natural increase in the population, which tends to be economically positive. Better yet, the economy should benefit more than natural pop growth because Canada didn't spend the resources raising and educating this new population, while we'd get the surplus it produces as it enters the workforce.

    If immigrant labour does not have the same rights (including recognition of experience, education through some process, etc) as non-immigrants, then the only way to not have corpos use them to lower wages is to not let them in at all - or zero immigration. But new workers constantly enter the workforce in a growing population as kids grow up so the mere entry of new workers into the economy doesn't appear to be bad for wages. The baby boom along with strong workers rights (much weakened later) produced a pretty great economy for working people.

  • I gotta say, Avi is doing a great job even if I'm still debating between him and Rob.

  • "Climate [change] is a class war, because big polluters profit and their friends run away with a pocket full of money. When it's the working class that at the end of the day that pay the ultimate price in their communities."

    Class war mentioned 20 minutes in!

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    Non-corporate classifieds marketplace

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    Federated classifieds marketplace

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    Ontario awards licences for publicly funded, privately operated diagnostic centres

    globalnews.ca /news/11264600/ontario-licences-publicly-funded-privately-operated-diagnostic-centres/
  • Canada @lemmy.ca

    No fines for big grocers that promoted imported food as Canadian

    www.cbc.ca /news/business/buy-canadian-label-maple-washing-1.7621843
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    Canada to quadruple Canada’s defence spending by 2030: Carney | Watch News Videos Online

    globalnews.ca /video/11348749/canada-to-quadruple-canadas-defence-spending-by-2030-carney
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    Connex link causing drivetrain noise?

  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Google CIO Calls Trump Admin’s Climate Denialism “Fantastic” | Ruth Porat called for data centers to be powered by coal, gas, and nuclear

    www.levernews.com /google-head-calls-trump-admins-climate-denialism-fantastic/
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    China's green energy boom could spell the end of the fossil fuel age

    www.abc.net.au /news/2025-08-13/china-turns-into-electrostate-after-staggering-renewable-growth/105555850
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal

    ericmigi.com /blog/pebble-time-2-design-reveal
  • Climate @slrpnk.net

    The Manosphere is Destroying the Biosphere (feat. Prof. Neil) | The Goose

  • Bicycles @lemmy.ca

    What 1500W can do to a bike chain

  • bike wrench @lemmy.world

    What 1500W can do to a bike chain

  • bike wrench @lemmy.world

    Elevate your 9-speed Shimano shifting with old XT/XTR shifters

  • Linux @lemmy.ml

    NVIDIA driver 570.181 released for Linux as the latest recommended stable driver

    www.gamingonlinux.com /2025/08/nvidia-driver-570-181-released-for-linux-as-the-latest-recommended-stable-driver/
  • bike wrench @lemmy.world

    11-speed chain on 9-speed drivetrain

  • Canada @lemmy.ca

    McDonald's playing maple masquarade

  • Bicycles @lemmy.ca

    This is what CST Tires calls 37mm width

  • Bicycles @lemmy.ca

    Waxing a chain connecting link

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    Hong Kong beef balls and boiled hotdog with chilli sauce

  • bike wrench @lemmy.world

    Waxing a chain connecting link