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atrielienz

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  • TikTok Users Gleefully Embrace Even More Chinese App To Spite US TikTok Ban

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  • Sigh. Two things. 1. This will not force the government to capitulate on the Tik Tok situation. It does not have the hallmarks of an effective protest and the federal government will ban these apps too. If you don't think so you should read the bill in question. 2. Rednote and apps like it have the opposite in TOS and content moderation (meaning these new users will not be able to use these apps as free speech platforms because the Chinese government does not allow that on those apps). It's very likely that any user trying to organize for LGBTQ or other marginalized groups will be banned pretty much right away for breaking the content policy of apps like rednote.

  • This Play Store change could stop you from review-bombing some of Google's apps (APK teardown)

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  • Why? Are they doing badly? They're doing badly, aren't they?

  • TikTok Denies Report China Is Looking to Sell App to Elon Musk

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  • How do you figure it's not sustainable? The government doesn't have to do anything particularly to do it. It doesn't require that Congress decide to/vote on the ban, will already be written into law, and it requires the users to have somewhere to move to that's feasibly bad and able to sustain them.

    We're also already seeing Americans run afoul of rednote's TOS and content policies. It will absolutely be the same on the next platform.

    The thing you have to realize is that the bill is written in such a way that it doesn't require any further regulation. That's the main problem with this idea that the government won't be able to keep up with regulating. If you don't think the government's OPSEC community has been vetting Chinese and Russian social media platforms for quite awhile now, you're living in a dream world. The thing is they had to figure out a way to make it so they could ban or otherwise interfere in these apps because they're corps. Now that they have figured that out the cat is out of the bag.

    I will say that the suggestion that people use Loops instead is probably not going to work specifically because it's too many users too fast.

    The US government has been on a ban or otherwise regulate Chinese products kick for a few years now and it only takes someone who's been paying attention to note the number of sanctions, bans of products and services, etc.

    The US has levied 117 sanctions since 2020.

    They have effectively banned Chinese EV's.

    The ban of Huawei, and ZTE, and potential ban of Chinese made Routers and networking equipment.

    A better protest would be to stay on the Tik Tok platform with a VPN or other method. But moving to rednote is a lot like throwing a tantrum in your living room where nobody can see it. It detrimentally affects tik tok because they're losing users/engagement as well.

  • With a TikTok Ban Looming, Users Flee to Chinese App ‘Red Note’

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  • Moving to something like Loops would absolutely be a better option, both because of it being part of the fediverse and therefore not controlled directly by any government, and because it's not likely to get banned. The fact that rednote will absolutely get banned once it reaches the threshold of users is not going to endear anyone who doesn't use tik tok to the movement. You don't explain what they're organizing or how the move to rednote makes the government look bad. If people don't care about tik tok they aren't going to care about rednote or the government banning it as well.

    The US Government is not going to get tired of banning these apps. It doesn't cost them much of anything. The "tik tok" ban already has the terminology built into the relevant clauses to ban any app beholden to a hostile foreign power that is a threat to national security with a certain number of users. They'll just add this to the list. People will use a VPN and give their data to China or Russia or whoever and get hacked because the average person is stupid about online security at the best of times.

    This doesn't inconvenience the government, doesn't inconvenience the average person who doesn't use tik tok, doesn't really detrimentally effect anyone but the people protesting, and I can't even say it's bringing awareness because nobody knows that's the plan. People are moving but the motives are opaque to those who don't use the app/aren't active in the movement.

    You haven't explained how this "protest" actually ticks any of the boxes for being an effective protest and that makes me think you probably don't have that answer which is fine.

    As for public protest "in the streets" I certainly wasn't suggesting that because I don't think that will work in this instance.

  • TikTok Denies Report China Is Looking to Sell App to Elon Musk

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  • The "ban" is. i wish people would read what the actual bill says.

    The bill stipulates that any entity in the control of a foreign adversary with a certain user threshold that collects specific data and uses algorithms to track users would be banned. This is why the red note "protest" is also not going to work. They'll just ban rednote as well. The ban is about more than just tik tok.

  • Google OAuth flaw lets attackers gain access to abandoned accounts

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  • Perhaps this is why they purged so many dead accounts.

  • My dog is fine and it wasn't my fault she needed surgery. She just deflated and swallowed her fave toy.

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  • Glad you and the pup are ok.

  • With a TikTok Ban Looming, Users Flee to Chinese App ‘Red Note’

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  • Protests have to do more than that to be effective. This issue is already incredibly visible just because of the news media covering the ban. People already know. So the protest doesn't get people's attention.

    But a good protest provides a lens through which to put the average person in the shoes of those people who are detrimentally affected or trying to effect change.

    It also usually inconveniences the institution being protested against, and the people not personally involved to incentivize them to help with a movement.

    This doesn't really tick any of the boxes of a protest from what I can tell but I've seen the word protest used to describe it several times.

    I'm happy to listen to what the aims of this protest are and what they hope to achieve. Nobody yet has given me much of an answer.

    You're actually one of the few people who have bothered to respond who even seems to know that visibility is an important component of a good protest.

  • With a TikTok Ban Looming, Users Flee to Chinese App ‘Red Note’

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  • It's a bad form of protest, because it doesn't do what protests are meant to do, but okay.

  • China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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  • Protests are supposed to inconvenience the institution and other people not involved in the situation so that they empathize and push for change. This isn't a particularly good protest if it's not doing those things. It doesn't seem to be inconveniencing the supreme Court, the federal government, or people who don't use tik tok so ...

  • Android 16 may bring predictive back support to three-button navigation

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  • That's reasonable. I use it because I got used to it, but I fully understand why others don't. I miss the 2 button nav that came out right after 3 button nav but before we went full on gesture controls.

  • Android 16 may bring predictive back support to three-button navigation

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  • So it's not useless and maybe some of you will use it!

  • Android 16 may bring predictive back support to three-button navigation

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  • It would be more useful to me with the new navigation. But I also only know one person with an android phone who still uses 3 button nav.

  • Google Messages now lets you set your own photos for contacts, replacing profile sharing

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  • I absolutely hated this change (My SO deliberately set his profile pic to something heinous on purpose to mess with me), but yeah. I'm not sure it's like ground breaking or anything.

  • China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option

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  • That will get banned too if the bill goes into effect.

  • "2 bedroom" AirBnB.

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  • Having never used the air B&B app or website I don't know if there is an option that differentiates the two.

  • "2 bedroom" AirBnB.

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  • When you buy a hotel room, don't you vet the room to make sure it's what you want? Same applies here. If you contact them I'm sure they'd happily explain the accommodations. If not, give them a bad review and move on.

  • Why does it seem like Americans have become so hateful and destructive in the past years?

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  • Can you give some hard examples of what you mean, and a contrast of what you would expect from a non-american please? I'm reading through this post and I don't know what you're seeing. It's not clear to me given what you wrote so it's hard to pinpoint which behaviors you're referring to.

    A lot of the things you bring up (about guns and walking safety at night and sending kids to school) doesn't jive and sounds quite a bit like media washing the entire country. Like. Yes. Guns are legal and lots of people have them. I don't see guns on a daily basis and even when I lived in a particularly crime prone area for the most part gun violence wasn't my main concern.

    The thing about corporal punishment of children is that what's legal and illegal varies by state but it's not outright outlawed to spank children (and I was absolutely not spanked, but beaten as a kid).

    But there's a reason the public hasn't broken out in violent opposition of the government as a whole (the liberal majority I mean) and it's twofold. Americans don't generally want to have to do violence to force change. If we did there would be a lot more Luigi's, Trump shooters, and BLM founders out there advocating in public for violence against the system and the people who uphold it.

    Additionally, people don't want to get involved with that if it means that it will significantly detrimentally affect their lives (which in a lot of cases is very much true). Living in between the "eat the rich/guillotine" idealism and the realism of making it day to day is hard and it doesn't allow a lot of fertile ground for empathy and perhaps that's what you're seeing.

    People have too much still to lose for a civil war to be particularly viable. They haven't reached a level of desperation that will allow most of them to commit indiscriminate violence against the system. But also, the education system has been decimated and so they don't think they understand the system well enough to effect change and that goes hand in hand with not getting involved in politics, lobbying, or playing the long game to indoctrinate liberals in a similar fashion to the way conservatives have been indoctrinated (but for the opposite view point, meaning incensing them to make change via a more long and arduous process that has lasting effects). We didn't see Roe v Wade get dismantled overnight. That was the result of decades of conservative movement. We haven't been actively and cohesively trying to counter that with our own movements.

    I'd also like to add that the vast majority of people live in cities where nature isn't easily accessible and time isn't given to them to enjoy it. I work something like 60 hours a week. Some people work more than that. The system is directly designed to keep people tired, poor, ignorant, and just desperate enough to continue to participate in the system. So yes, we are disconnected from nature in a lot of ways.

  • A Virtual Cell Is a ‘Holy Grail’ of Science. It’s Getting Closer.

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  • I got there by other means, but thank you.