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  • MAGAts be all ...

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  • Listen how can I get a quart of milk from the store without also taking two chairs, a loveseat, a sound system, my heater and air conditioning unit, some steel armor plating, and a storage unit?

  • Letters to the Editor: Your 'protest vote' for Jill Stein is really a vote for Donald Trump

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  • The issue is with what they are actually able to accomplish, not what they say they'll do. And that goes for every Democrat since Carter.

  • Donors

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  • Removing these biases is the whole point of public funding for things. Everyone shares the same resources and people who have more wealth give more. The fact that major institutions that perform public functions rely on private donations is the problem.

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • My local is great but I don't have any others to compare to so it's a pretty vapid description. There's a PSL here too and they come to a lot of our events. It's always interesting to hear from the more radical formation.

    The thing with DSA "party discipline" is that it's not a political party. It's basically a nonprofit with local chapters that all have their own agendas, some of which run candidates. So I'm interested to see what happens with a more centralized (as far as I understand it anyway) structure like PSL.

    In terms of labor organizing I do think the political climate matters. The rail strike is an example of national scale union busting, but on more local levels (Starbucks, Amazon, Cemex...) that the NLRB actually matters. Here's an article about it.

    https://www.laborpolitics.com/p/how-bidens-nlrb-has-boosted-bottom

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • Right. If democrats want those votes then Biden needs to make significant progress on ending the genocide now. The threat from third parties exerts an outsize pressure on the Democrats to actually do something. But of course they likely won't, and instead Trump will take advantage of this.

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • Yeah, I'm just wondering why they're launching a national presidential campaign rather than trying to win locally first. See for example DSA's (the veil falls lol) cadre candidates like Zohran Mamdani.

    It seems to me like PSL is skipping this step and going straight to national, with the net result of devoting a lot of energy that could be spent on worker organizing on a campaign that everyone knows is not going to win.

    This also bears the risk of helping Trump win by siphoning off votes from Harris, and a Trump victory will have damaging effects on the NLRB, an organization which in its current state is making it a lot easier for workers to unionize.

    So I'm just not seeing how any third party presidential run ties into building worker power, but maybe I am missing something.

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  • To illistrate this, I just typed "restaurants" in Google Maps in downtown Prague and the first result was an ad for KFC (it looked like a real result but it said "sponsored" on top). But I do have a US phone.

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • Again, not understanding where the anger is coming from. I'm not even supporting a specific candidate. I'm pointing out that 3d parties that take a stand against US imperialism will always have support, because neither major party can be trusted in this regard. And again, for some people, this is a line they won't cross. I'll stop now because clearly this is unproductive.

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • My mistake, thanks

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • The other thing I don't understand is all the anger and vitriol from you guys. Everyone who lives in the US and contributes tax dollars to the federal government supports genocide. The US has been supporting Israel unconditionally for decades. Do you really think Kamala Harris is sincere about stopping this, given how Biden's administration has handled the situation? Or any other Democrat or Republican since Carter?

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • I think you're suggesting Trump would be worse than Harris for the cause. But my point is that a lot of people feel that voting for either is sanctioning genocide, and Stein fills that niche by condemning it. It's pretty low-hanging fruit for a politician.

    I'm legitimately curious as to how college protestors could be hurting the cause.

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • I have a question about PSL. My organizational background is in labor mostly, though I have done some door knocking for critical elections.

    How is your candidate getting however many votes (feel free to estimate) going to help the working class? Or alternatively, how does your electoral campaign help PSL? Is this ultimately a recruitment drive?

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • I don't understand how a genocide can be taken so lightly. Some people have trouble casting a vote for any political party that sponsors one.

  • Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

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  • Maybe vote count is instructive:

    Nader 2000: 2,882,955

    Cobb 2004: 119,859

    McKinney 2008: 161,797

    Stein 2012: 469,501

    Stein 2016: 1,457,216

    Hawkins 2020: 407,068

    I don't think the party would collapse without Stein. They have been around for decades and they have a cadre of oranizers who will continue to show up regardless of results. Stein is just the most famous person they can use for a presidential election, and you can see from the above results what happens when they run someone nobody has heard of.

    I think they genuinely believe in their core values, and it's unfortunate that Stein is their only viable candidate. They won't ever be a real political party until they start winning local/state elections, but they're looking to secure more federal funding by getting enough votes. If Stein disappeared then they would keep doing this but they'd never breach half a million votes. Maybe a progressive democrat in the House would smell an opportunity and break ranks to run for president with the Greens. That could maybe get them a million or two votes again.

    Or maybe it absolutely does not matter who they run and they just get a lot of votes when the Democrats run particularly shitty candidates for president.

  • The stuff I see on social media makes me angry, and Kamala is not a perfect candidate

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  • Cool, thanks for assuming the women in my life think I'm throwing them under the bus. I love your inclusive outlook.

  • The stuff I see on social media makes me angry, and Kamala is not a perfect candidate

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  • Yeah I totally agree. I listen to Ralph's radio show, and he's still kicking. As sharp as ever. But we could use another one that's 50 years younger.

  • The stuff I see on social media makes me angry, and Kamala is not a perfect candidate

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  • Yeah there's never been a better time to vote for a third party. I think we can move past this duopoly superstructure as long as we keep resisting. I don't think the millenials or zoomers are as gullible as the boomers. But maybe I am being irrationally optimistic.

  • The stuff I see on social media makes me angry, and Kamala is not a perfect candidate

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  • Ah yes, the latest in-group propaganda campaign. Please honor me with your downvotes.

  • The Irony of 'You Wouldn't Download a Car' Making a Comeback in AI Debates

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  • Chomsky's stroke came at a really critical time and we could use a successor to point out how idiotic the whole movement is.