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  • As an example, the IRS returns $6 for every dollar spent on it, and absolutely all available evidence shows that if you remove all the guardrails, things get far worse almost immediately.

    Can you point to an example of fascism working? Every example I've seen ended with massive decline in quality of life, rampant waste, and both economic and government collapse - usually with a dead leader through suicide or execution, generally with their corpse being dragged through the streets by an understandably furious populace. It'll all work out this time, though... right?

  • Fascism and idiots - I couldn't name a more iconic duo - though I do agree with you point... Trump is exceptionally stupid, and has surrounded himself with gibbering idiots like Musk and RFK.

    ...that said, when Trump's heart inevitably explodes, Vance will almost certainly have competent (evil) advisors, and they'll get (horrible) shit done.

  • The Hitler lasted from July 1932, and Hitler killed himself in April 1945 - 13 years.

    Mussolini lasted from 1922 to his execution in 1945 - 23 years.

    Stalin lasted 1924-1953 - 29 years.

    Fascism inevitably implodes and crates untold suffering along the way, but you might have longer than you think.

  • Yeah - it's the FDA and CDC that are the true money pits in the US government... Let's eliminate the IRS and EPA while we're at it - really smash those guardrails and let the altruistic market fix it - that always works..

    Ohhh look - we're cutting taxes for those that need it least again - but that's responsible spending - it's all been accumulating for over half a century, so it's got to start trickling down any day now, guys.

  • If you can avoid the dark ages, you should probably consider that a win right now...

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  • So we should deport Israelis because Israel backed Hamas' displacement of the secular moderates with predictable results?

    Don't pretend your hatred is principled.

  • I'd encourage any readers of this comment to look at this idiots most recent few posts. They're a lying, genocide celebrating piece of shit - astroturf or otherwise.

    You fought for this result, and now you're going to try to pretend that you were doing the exact opposite? Fuck all the way off.

  • I think it's pretty straightforwardly reasonable to say that we should above all else, remove their ability to continue to do harm. There's going to be a range of views on exactly what that should look like - mostly based on your view of how punitive we should be. Options would include confinement, exile, medication, lobotomy, and execution.

    Personally, I think ending someone through death, lobotomy, and the like is unnecessarily barbaric. Confinement in one form or another seems like the most reasonable option, and I think consentual alternatives are debatable.

  • Had a friend that took the conspiracist road to Nazism, and this isn't an exaggeration - the dictionary is a Jewish plot, so is any empirical evidence, the existence of qualified experts, observable phenomena...

    The small mercy is that the idiots and monsters that voted for Trump and the dipshits that couldn't be bothered to vote to stave off fascism will drown in the river of shit alongside the well-meaning folk that did their best (or anything at all) to stop this.

  • Christ - because it's not as though the media contributes massively to voter suppression.

    Journalistic malpractice is one of the main causes - if not the main cause of this result.

  • And the fraud was definitely real - the Democrats might have spent tens of millions of dollars on the campaign, but they secretly didn't want to win again this time, so they didn't do the fraud again, guys...

  • wait, instilling global-level racism is not fascism?

    No. Fascism is fascism. This exact flavor of stupidity/dishonesty is why I asked where you get your nonsense definition. You don't need me to define fascism - just take the five minutes to pick up your preferred dictionary or even better, Umberto Eco's widely respected definition and educate yourself.

    there is one possible outcome for this election

    No. There are two (bad) possible outcomes that vary massively in the scale of death and suffering that they'll lead to. To draw and argue a false equivalence is not only to dismiss that easily preventable death and suffering - it's to advocate for it. Also, not relevant, but not my country.

    If you're not American, you can't vote, but where you're failing to lift a finger is that you refuse to ease off your meaningless virtue signalling bullshit around the election a massive number of lives are at stake.

    Pull your fucking head in and stop enabling the deaths of who knows how many people you dishonestly claim to care about as you weaponise their suffering for nothing more than your ego.

    Absolutely disgraceful.

  • A war of aggression started in October by Hamas.

    Yeah - history started 13 months ago, and the genocide being committed in Palestine is actually a Hamas war of aggression. Is it because it's all Israeli territory and therefore that genocide is justified?

    Once again LBGTQ+ individuals would be killed, jailed and persecuted even without the current conflict with Israel.

    You don't get to weaponise the LGBTQ+ community, who Israel is exterminating at a far quicker rate than everyone else in the region combined to justify the extermination of those LGBTQ+ people, their families, and everyone they care about.

    Once again Lebanon is an active war zone.

    Yes - Israel invaded them.

    Simple Israel is fighting a war that was thrust on it by Hamas in October. Nazis fought a war of aggression. The fact that you can’t tell the difference is sad.

    That's probably less defensible than the argument that the Jews were sabotaging the German economy in defence of the Holocaust - it's definitely less defensible than arguing Hitler had no choice but to start WWII because of the economic carve-up following WWI.

    Congratulations - you're just as genocidal as the Nazis and use even stupider arguments than they do. The tankies can go fuck themselves - but my prescription for you would defy TOS, Rudolph Jitler.

  • sigh

    What definition of fascism are you using? It sure as shit isn't the dictionary or Eco's - words have meaning.

    That aside, there are 2 possible outcomes for this election - that's a simple, mathematical reality. If you care about brown people, which of those two options will cause the death and suffering of far more of those people?

    ...but rather than lift a finger to actually help those you claim to care about, you're going to throw them under the bus and empower the worse option because you can't swallow your pride and vote for the lesser of two evils. An I right in thinking you'll risk those peoples' lives so that you can virtue signal with a Green vote?

  • Yawn

    History started 13 months ago (but only as it relates to the genocide Israel is committing) - but you'd better not pay attention to who has been killing the most LGBTQ+ people (and straight people, civilians, children...) in the region.

    I'm the one brushing aside reality, eh?

    You don't ever look at the fact that you're defending a genocide and question yourself? That you're weaponising the Palestinian LGBTQ+ population whose extermination you're actively supporting exterminating to justify that extermination?

    ...nah - better to just say I'm off my meds.

    You wouldn't have to tie yourself in bizarre knots to defend a genocide if you simply decided not to defend the indefensible. You don't have a moral framework, you don't have a logical framework - you have "Israel gud, so genocide gud."

  • Hooray for courts stacked with sycophants and partisans, and liberals enabling fascism because meaningfully opposing it would be uncivil.

    There's slim hope that Trump losing the election along with his viability as president or leader of the GOP would see his protections make way for consequences, but even that seems unlikely.

  • Your prescription seems to assume that either:

    1. Everyone can be rehabilitated, which no society has ever achieved.
    2. That it's preferable to push a well understood risk to people's lives back into the community than it is to keep that risk in the care of the state where they can't kill more people.

    ...but you strike me as too sensible to prescribe that kind of thing, so what have I missed?

  • They're not currently in power. I'd like to keep it that way.

  • Hold it in Palestine, get murdered by Israel.

    Hold it in Iran, get murdered by Israel.

    Hold it in Lebanon, get murdered by Israel.

    ...but Israel is less homophobic than them, so Israel's genocide is good, actually.

    Are you able to explain why the Nazis were bad in a way that doesn't implicate Israel?