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  • They're a bait and switch into their own services. I suspect Murena has more intentions of profiting from the FOSS community than contributing to it.

    Murena is a public, for-profit company. You could say that's nothing to worry about for a company and CEO with seemingly benign intentions, but the same could be said for OpenAI way back when as well.

    And, like Graphene and Lineage, they're a band aid on a bigger problem, Android. These companies would all do the world better by donating and contributing to mobile Linux, either devices or software.

  • These days with Android roms, it's not so much what you're doing publicly that I care the most about, it's who and what your company is and who's funding it.

    I'm iffy on /e/os and Murena, and I'm equally iffy on you until proven otherwise. There's a lot of actors in this scene and it's hard to tell at first glance who's really in it for privacy and security and who's just here to bankroll users into their ecosystem.

    but!

    From what I can see on your site, at least from first glance, you all seem to have good intentions... for now, anyway.

  • I hardly believe foss faithful people would ever carry a laptop

    The whole thinkpad obsession in the linux/foss community isn't visible to you?

  • The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

    Enjoy Tamriel, newcomer!

  • Kinda did beforehand anyway. Their fabs are old and there's not much going on to build new ones or update, so.

    shakes AMD's hand

    You won! 🎉

    Uh oh! Monopoly! I hope AMD isn't swayed by political actors into injecting malware into their chips, again.

  • Huh, I wonder what a good number of those people will dedicate the rest of their waking lives to...

  • Forgot the /s?

  • No more than yours could be an astroturf by forces attempting to deter civil unrest. Lotta tinfoil to be found in supposin'.

  • Just make the account for the one-off situation, store it in keepass and never give them anything more.

    The cold method. You get what you ask for, nothing more, like we're all dead end employees and it's just another ask.

  • Seems about right, for as long as they can.

    I'd even consider the possibility of "google-free" phones showing up on kickstarter in two or three years for the tinkerer market. That market exists. Raspberrypi didn't buy itself. We are here!

  • Or we just... ignore them?

    LineageOS and GrapheneOS could just be like "well, go on, then."

    There's a market for everything and the FOSS and maker markets would eat up an open Android phone, even if the only apps you could install were community-created.

  • Dumbphone with tethering

    A mini laptop/cyberdeck

    A modern mp3 player

    A small, modern point and click camera

    hey gramps, where'd you get that gear, 2007?

  • There's already a firm divide between the foss/self sufficiency crowd and modern tech.

    If this is bad enough, you'd see every foss faithful walking around with a laptop, mp3 player and camera like they're in 2009.

  • Looks to me like they've been complying for 20 years or so. No real change needed on their part.

    1. I'm happy, having conversations and I even get a troll in every now and again.

    I hereby award Lemmy with the title of "based". Reddit is no longer necessary.

  • I see it this way.

    Google wants everyone using gapps to be identified but isn't outright saying you can't use Android without certification.

    "Google says that only apps with verified identities will be installable on certified Android devices, which is virtually every Android-based device—if it has Google services on it, it's a certified device"

    So LOS and Graphene may get off the hook on this and be able to install whatever non-google apps they need. By default, neither have google services.

    Sucks for the gapps people, but, I mean. They knew it was coming, right?

  • ...What about after September 2026?

    Well, there's one teensy tiny caveat.

    Google says that only apps with verified identities will be installable on certified Android devices, which is virtually every Android-based device—if it has Google services on it, it's a certified device.

    So, in theory... no gapps, no approval necessary?

    Open devs just have to have two versions, as many already do, one signed with Google's spyware and one on github/fdroid with nothing.

  • Looks like I'm gonna just carry a stock phone, give it nothing but the most basic information and tether it to a laptop over a VPN. They stop tethering? I'll use VOIP and a hotspot.

    Welcome back to 2011. Maybe messenger bags will come back into fashion in foss culture.

  • Average person: "Yeah right, take off the tinfoil hat man, that'll never happen!"

  • Right, the middleware is the issue. You can bake all of what Cloudflare does yourself as far as hardening goes and utilities like Anubis and Pangolin, buuut you're not getting that DDOS protection.

    To Lemmy's benefit, DDOSing one of us isn't DDOSing all of us, buuut there's a bit to be said about Lemmy mostly centralizing around .world.

    If one had a botfarm and a grudge...

    There are proxies and selfhosted middleware out there that can be set up across arrays of vpses who'll then redirect based on health and load, but once they know all of them, I guess you're done running.