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  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • It's not a made up problem, bit you are right it might slip I to the culture was bullshit department soon.

    You not thinking that this is confusing is irrelevant, there are more people put there including oldies that don't bring their fucking glasses at the supermarket with them.

    Point is that countries like France take seriously food mislabelling (in my opinion rightly so), this is nothing different that fake mozzarella, parmigiana or champagne. There are ways to prevent confusing customers, this law is one of them.

    Have your marketing department go crazy with a catchy new name for your amazing plant based creation.

  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • LOL, asks for good faith and then go with desecrated corpse of a cow. I'll bite, ignore the fluff and go straight to the question

    What would you suggest they call it?

    Don't fucking care. Your marketing department comes up with something catchy, descriptive and that doesn't confuse customers. And in this case in France, that doesn't break the law.

    Piggybacking your comment about beer. I make a nice dry and sparkly wine that resembles Champagne but the grapes are not grown in the Champagne region.in fact its not a grape wine at all I use recycled shoe soles. I'd like to call it Champagne in the shops around Europe but if I am not allowed, what would you suggest i call it?

  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • Except that France regulates their food industry very strictly and rightly so. What you think it's a metaphor, it's actually a word with a specific meaning.

    Try to emulate Champagne and sell it as a Champagne in europe, and then try to convince the judge that you just intended that as a metaphore and wanted to emulate the taste pallet.

  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • Brigaded by vegans. Would love to see a thread about products labelled as vegan actually containing meat or eggs but only listed in the fine print. Their mouths would he froting about the actual.meaning of the word vegan and the importance of not mislabelling profucts

  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • Mate, you might think your highly processed piece of crap is a better dietary choice. Fine I have no problem with that.

    What I am asking is not being misled into buying it as a steak.

    And if it's so superior, why do you need to call it a steak, use some imagination and come up with a name on par with its superiority.

  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • Nice assumption. I can tell a pork steak from eg. a beef one by looking at it. If it's sold as steak and doesn't say something like marinated, I am safe to assume that there is no list of ingredients to check. This is true in Australia and Europe supermarkets. Just a fucking piece of meat. 3 seconds decision while you move on with your shopping.

    A meatless product made to look like a beef steak can easily look like a beef steak. So no, until yesterday you didn't need a microscope to 'care' what animal it was you were buying. Now I need to make sure that it's actual fucking meat. That's where making mislabelling illegal does help.

    I'd love to see the reaction of the vegans if someone was sneaking in meat or eggs in products labelled as vegan.

  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • But that's the actual problem there. For decades you could buy a steak at a supermarket without having to worry about it being some processed shit sold as s steak.

    Stop blaming it on the customer. If it's even remotely confusing, it shouldn't be allowed, and France is taking steps in the right direction.

    France, Italy, Spain and other countries in that area have a strong food identity and culture, mislabelling is taken seriously. It comes from decades of scammers trying to piggyback on mozzarella, champagne, parmigiano, hamon. Someone trying to sell crap and pretend it's something else is nothing new, and it's just taken care as it should.

    Your plant matter protein block is in aisle 5, just don't call it a steak as it is confusing customers that give that word a very specific meaning and have for a very long time. Fucking great opportunity to come up with a new name and make it into the dictionary next year.

  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • Sorry you are saying you can't call something that is not cheese 'cheese'? Preposterous.

  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • Blocking this at European level requires a completely different path. I wouldn't be surprised if France tried to do so next, and it would probably get the support of other neighbouring countries that have similar values when it comes to food.

    Not sure what's all the push against this from this thread though. Is it not okay to call a spade a spade?

    What if we take the opposite approach and look at someone marketing a processed food based on tripe as as vegan friendly corn chunks?

  • France bans 'steak' and 'escalope' labels from vegetarian products

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  • Not in France, but as a meat eater I am starting to get annoyed at misleading labelling. Can I eventually figure out that what's in my hands in the supermarket aisle is some sort of meat substitute? Sure, I'd like not waste my time though and others might be in a rush, distracted or you know mislead.

    Have you come up with a great new meat free product? Awesome, find a catchy new namenand market it, you don't need to piggy bag on steak or bacon that have a pretty specific meaning to consumers.

    Also, are you a rabid vegan that hates everything meat related? Why would you want to buy and eat something called bacon?

    Edit: also you are correct that this is a colossal waste of time. Customers time. France and other countries with a gastronomic culture like italy take food and food related frauds pretty seriously. And IMO they are right. Want to sell some new experimental shit? Be my guest, as a customer I should be able to opt in, not have to opt out.

  • Phones are distracting students in class. More states are pressing schools to ban them

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  • If you are into surveillance wouldn't it be easier to just install cameras everywhere and record everything? Then phone can stay away and locked.

    To be clear, I'm not advocating for this, it sounds like a 1984 nightmare. It's just that you don't need kids with phones to enact surveillance

  • Reddit Is Letting Power Users In on Its IPO. Not Everyone’s Buying

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  • We are letting you in to take a slice if this juicy juicy pie only because you are special. Seems sometging out of a dodgy salesman or a conmans playnook to me

  • Doctors Concerned About Neuralink's First Patient

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  • And more in general, humans. Imagine if Clarence Thomas had taken medicine instead of law when he was young

  • Thousands protest as hunger grows amid Argentine austerity

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  • The last twentyONE years is what brought us to TODAY.

    -- 1934. A disgruntled German referring to Hitler's ascent to power

    Again, you are the one who mentioned education. That's the only thing we can use to prevent making the same mistake over and over.

    Had someone handled Hitler and miles (Bolsonaro, Berlusconi.. the list is long and incredibly reperitive) the way they need to be treated we wouldn't repeat the same pricey mistake over and over. And south America should have learnt a thing or two about fascist dictators by now.

  • A lot of Redditors hate the Reddit IPO | Reddit warned us that its users were a risk factor, and boy do they sound excited about shorting its stock.

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  • Fair enough, still feels like we are comparing nestle with your city's local chain of 7 minimarkets, sure I might have a few more acquaintances that use reddit but that is not 100% of them. I did a quick search from my phone, hope the sites is reliable and that I didn't fuck up anything

    According to this reddit had just under 75 million daily active users in q3 2023 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1453149/reddit-quarterly-dau-by-region/

    In the same q, Facebook had https://www.statista.com/statistics/346167/facebook-global-dau/ 2110

    So reddit need to grow another order of magnitude for op statement that it is comparable to fb in its dominance to become remotely true. Ideally two orders of magnitude.

    I get it, we have all spent too much time on reddit for years and feel like that's basically the whole of the internet but we are biased, there is a whole majority of people out there that don't even know that exists

  • A lot of Redditors hate the Reddit IPO | Reddit warned us that its users were a risk factor, and boy do they sound excited about shorting its stock.

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  • They are saying it's like Facebook in its dominance, I'm saying it's not like Facebook, clearer now or you want me to come over with a whiteboard?

  • A lot of Redditors hate the Reddit IPO | Reddit warned us that its users were a risk factor, and boy do they sound excited about shorting its stock.

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  • Is it though? Everyone I know aged 20 to 85 i on Facebook, some more active than others. I think I know 3 people irl that use reddit. Mind you I'm not in the US, where is more prevalent but most people I know have barely heard of reddit.

    Sure, it has near monopoly on forum communities but that's a tiny niche on the internet

  • Thousands protest as hunger grows amid Argentine austerity

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  • Mate, a populist fascist is a populist fascist in sud America, Greenland or in the US. You don't need to live in the country to see how trump, bolsonaro, duterte or milei are just shit human beings that prey on poor and ignorant people. That's what populists do, we have seen it a million times in the past and since you mention education, that's the only hope that people learn critical skills and stop voting for these assholes ( or better even, they hang them upside down)

  • Google confirms Gmail is “here to stay” amid speculation over plans to scrap the email service

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  • LOL they truly suck