Do you consider veganism an organised effort? Cuz i aint seeing any vegan org actually put a dent in the meat industry where i live. Boycot is not just pausing the consumption of meat there also needs to also be systemic effort.
Yeah the fact that its a boycot is the problem. Its liberal individualist thinking.
Same argument as before "I'm one person I can't make a difference" - 1 billion people not making a difference
Oh god i thought this site was lib free but here we are. No i am not voting with my pocket. Yes i will not even be noticed it i were to boycot nor will the 60-70 muslim grammas ever change their mind even if the best vegan debatebro talked at them for hours
Wdym they wouldnt be alive if Stalin didnt exist? They wouldnt have to see brown people on the street when they travel to low income areas of their country!! They would have a United States of Europe! Given to them by God who sent all the sinful creatures previously living there to eternal punishment (for being slavic or brown or gay), and left the white man the beautiful land! They would be working 14 hours a day 7 days a week but thats the price you have to pay for Freedom!!
Also I already said that without an organised boycotting effort no change can be done. Veganism is not very organised. For example in my small (very conservative) city if I were to go vegan I'd be the only one. The suppliers would not notice me not eating a dozen eggs and a few kilos of chicken/meat every month.
My problem with this thinking is enough people need to be vegan in a given community for the killing of animals to be reduced. Until enough people become vegan the killed animals would go in the trash. (For example) I believe coffee harvesting is unethical but I still consume coffee because I know my boycott efforts wont even be noticed by the bourgeois let alone lead to less slavery. What I know will make a difference is a socialist revolution which will hopefully eventually put an end to slavery. As long as there is capitalism the meat industry will live on and so will the supposed meat eater propaganda.
I have had so many arguments where I argued a common sense point and a trot or other revisionist argued i was wrong until I quoted Lenin. They care more about whoever is saying it rather than the argument itself.
Imagine what could happen if more countries around the world had successful revolutions and freely traded with one another while less countries were enslaved by the US
Just got banned on reddit from a trot sub (didnt know they were trots) after reading trotskyist bs and replying to it (they accused me of sectarianism but not the trot i was responding to LMAO)
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