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  • New Non-Woke Freedom Shirts! Get your Non-Woke Freedom Shirts!

  • It looks so easy 😭 I wish I had the starting capital and lack of morals to start one of these grifts.

  • That's why everyone said aid through the road would be better and more reliable from the beginning. But then the US would actually have to make Israel do something substantive.

  • Right? It seems repetitive.

  • Tbh, I had always thought Tank Man was run over until extremely recently (like this year) so I'm sure there are lots of people like me who had just assumed that. I remember seeing a picture with red circles over all the supposedly dead bodies that had been run over by tanks. It's still an impressive image, a single man bravely stopping a tank, but not quite what I thought I was looking at.

  • It seems like if you'd take it's net impact throughout world history and it added it all up, you'd end up in the negatives. Like it's been actively more bad for the human race than good.

  • Right, but there have been settlers in West Bank. They're still Palestinians being harmed. And life in Gaza isn't sunshine and roses for most Palestinians, either.

  • And the slowly encroaching settler attacks, blockade, and occupation was just what? A special military operation?

  • Thanks for the explanation! Was wondering what the hell was going on, too.

  • But with that logic, my friends have the right to go to Italy and Ireland, kick out native Italians and Irish and take their houses, because they're Italian-American or Irish-American. That's not how it works or how it should work. Its the same reason I wouldn't have supported the Liberia project of having African-Americans go back to Africa and kick out and oppress the natives just because they were mistreated in the US, if I was alive at the time. It led to centuries of indigenous oppression and civil wars, like Israel and Palestine nowadays. We shouldn't be looking to imitate that level of colonial superiority anywhere else.

  • Hopefully they feel vindicated when everyone sanctions Isreal.

  • It sounds like the opposite. Do you even know what Zionism is? It's calling for a place Jews from all over the world can go via. They bring in people from all over the world, lots of them have dual citizenships. Because Jewish people can trace genealogic origins there from thousands of years ago doesn't make some lady from Europe or New York the same as some local Palestinian kid at all. They then kick out the natives and give their homes to these settlers. They've been doing it since the 40's. People can look over the wall and see where they, their parents, or their grandparents used to live.

    I recommend looking up the history of Zionism, including the European Jews that forwarded it, like Theodore Herzl, and the different places they considered for it (Uganda,Argentina, Cyprus, etc) before settling on Palestine.

  • A map and basic understanding of indigenous resistance.

  • Damn you were right. Scrolled down a bit and they were all over. Did Hasbara finally find Lemmy, or had there been a new wave of propagandized redditors leaving to come here?

  • There's nowhere else for Hamas to set up. There's civilians in all of Gaza. It's an extremely densely populated region, even more so now that it's being cleared and destroyed. Second, Hamas was created in response to Israeli aggression that already existed. Surrendering would just bring them to the status quo that inspired the First Intifada, when Palestinians were still being attacked, killed, restricted, oppressed, and their land steadily taken for more than 20 years already. People don't respond well to that and to expect them to sit there and being slowly ethnically cleansed again is unrealistic. The correct take is to oppose Israel and it's settler colonialism.

  • I'm guessing by this logic you're not voting for Biden, or don't support voting for him if you don't live in the US?

  • You have to imagine other people have no idea about Marxism but what they've heard from US propaganda. When they hear you support China, Cuba, and Vietnam, they just hear you supporting dictator for life Xi Jinping and one party state Cuba and Vietnam. You guys need better answers than this.

    The other person's answer was pretty good, though.

  • There's hypothetically a bunch of different version of communism for everyone. The thing is, Marx described the problems with capitalism, and some vague sense of what socialism could be, some guidelines of what it should aim for, then kind of left the details up to each individual society to get there how they think is best based on their individual material conditions. He gave his own guesses, but didn't think he could predict that part fully, it would be up to the people of the future to figure it out and build on. A third world country, rural serf based near fuedal society, like Russia, would have completely different needs from some post-industrial country, like if Germany turned communist, for example. If the world's sole superpower, the US, turned communist, it would probably be a lot different than communist countries that had to transition under siege neighboring imperialism, like Cuba, North Korea, or Vietnam.

    This is just to answer your last question. Don't think this really addresses your other questions, but just wanted to explain that part, as I've had it explained to me before. But I generally agree with you. There should still be some form of democracy but it might look different than what we are used to here in the US or liberal west.

  • Ya thanks for the interesting POV. I'll try to look at it from that angle when I finally make it out over there.