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SocDem is not a marxist or an anarchist.

DemSoc. Holy fucking shit. Literally read theory.

Please keep posting that screenshot. If people actually read it, it does not say what you think it means.

I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous or if your literacy is legitimately at that level.

No, I don’t care.

What are we on? 15 comments of "don't care", all of them peddling the same point despite it being repeatedly disproven?

The person mentioned that there were numerous other places. I don’t know what they are. I’m not gonna sit here and go after them

lmao

"The person mentioned there were numerous other places" than the ones I just mentioned to you, despite the other commenter having not made any comment since? What, are you linked by telepathy?

Trumpian level 'thought'.

These are battered posters here, subjected to my relentless cruelty of downvotes for repeating shitty unsubstantiated slander and defending myself from easily disproven accusations that I can back with literal screenshots (which is honestly not something I often have the pleasure of doing). Press F to pay respects.

No, I'm saying Hamas committed sexual violence on Oct 7, I didn't realize that was un-fucking clear.

He’s a genocide-supporting Zionist radlib who thinks it’s fun to spend his day insulting people who bring in Marxist/anarchist theory.

LOL

By the way, radlib is not an insult. It describes his political position 🙄

Radlib is when DemSoc.

It would be insulting to describe what he does as debating or arguing. He spends most of the time using falicious techniques in order to try and point score the best he can, so that he doesn’t actually have to engage with anything you say, and then when you bring up something specific, he’ll just ignore the point.

Bruh, last time I remember arguing with you all you did was spit out the names of logical fallacies without understand what they meant. You played apologist for Russian genocide and then got upset when I was no longer interested in playing games with you.

It’s also entirely inappropriate to follow a user around to small communities that you’re not a part of to downvote when the voting system is supposed to be whether or not a post matches the tone of the community.

Which small community was I not a part of, by the way?

Radlib is when you want to abolish capitalism, and the more you want to abolish capitalism, the more radlib you are.

Yeah, this had put a target on his back in any lefty instance.

For... pointing out that Hamas did, in fact, commit sexual violence on Oct 7?

YePowerTrippingBastards is not small, and 0 Governance is a comm I literally frequent and have voted in and commented in before.

Sorry that you're so desperately grasping at something to justify your original conclusion.

But you don't care, I'm sure. :)

He tends to get into a fight every single time I see him post and somebody says something that’s even slightly controversial, which results in an easily hundred long comment thread.

I dread to think of what you consider only 'slightly controversial'.

He’s more than willing to follow you around from thread to thread to and from community to community If he sees something on your profile he doesn’t like or he disagrees with your political opinions.

lmao, what.

If this is a Lemmy, anarchist instance, full of a bunch of super lefties, they’re not gonna appreciate a Radlib coming in trying to start shit up and downvoting a bunch of people. They’re probably just gonna block him like they have.

I'm literally a DemSoc, and I'm quite open about this. Sorry that I don't fit your convenient stereotype for "Bad Poster"?
They literally haven't blocked me.
If you count "disagreeing with someone without commenting" or, as accused elsewhere, "disagreeing with someone and commenting once when your name is mentioned" as "starting shit up", I question what level of disagreement you think is appropriate.

I think the recommendation here is if you’re gonna downvote people, you probably want to just stick to downvoting people directly in the thread you’re engaging with and not go in that person’s profile and downvote every single thing they’ve ever done. Or claim that every single thing they’ve ever done is something you disagree with.

Again, as pointed out in our conversation, and, for that matter, by the admission of the person being discussed here as 'harassed', none of that is true.

But I guess backpedaling admission in order to peddle blatant falsehoods in a new comment chain is all you have at this point. You already backpedaled twice in that comment chain; gotta get a new thread out for exposure of repeating the same bullshit talking points, huh?

I don’t care, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the situation.

You don't care, of course.

I kinda think you made your own bed.

I apologize for the crime of downvoting comments that I disagree with. I'm sure this is from a place of utter detachment, 'just pointing out the hypocrisy' of something you can no longer claim to be hypocrisy. Now it's just a generic "You deserved it", lmao.

I mean, if you’re downvoting everybody’s page, and claiming that you just disagree with everything they post, then yeah, I can see why they would ban you.

Except it wasn't everything they posted, even by their own admission, in this very comment thread, no less:

His account of my behavior is not correct, nor are his bizarre claims of what I said, but he admits that I didn't just blanket downvote.

Unfortunately for you, you’re not exactlu sunshine and rainbows, so I can imagine people aren’t exactly willing to just take you at your word.

That's legitimate.

I don’t care, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the situation.

But as pointed out, the two situations are different - including by the account of the 'harassed' user I'm being accused of victimizing.

As I pointed out, the claims of harassment are untrue (unless downvoting comments one genuinely disagrees with is harassment), and the commenter in question has a long history of obsessing about me, in a negative way.

Seven months of obsessing about me, and that was just gleaned from a quick search of my name from their account.

Yes, mass downvoting things for no reason is different from downvoting things you disagree with. If you go down a page and downvote every artifact there, and then illustrations, and then ruins, at some point it becomes apparent that it's not because of a very eclectic and specific aesthetic preference. I'm sorry if that's too complex for you to understand.

Seven months of bitching and lies about some internet rando who lives rent-free in your head is impressive.

You were banned for mass-downvoting innocuous shit in comms for no reason other than that we'd gotten into an argument. I even tried to contact you to figure out if there was a reason you were downvoting swathes of historical artifacts with no apparent similarities, but you gave no response. So I gave you a ban, at which point you blew up and accused me of banning you for not liking a Braveheart meme.

But as I blocked him for repeated harassing private messages I’m not going to engage.

(It was more than four, across multiple comms, and they weren't duplicates)

Then don’t be a rubber stamp and leave it for goat to handle.

I see, unsurprisingly, you didn't read my comment.

Any moderating by me done on MeanwhileonGrad is if I mod coming straight from my inbox without checking the comm.

Nobody accused him of “mass downvoting”, that’s a strawman. What he was accused of was harassing one of our users, looking him up for the specific purpose of downvoting past posts/comments and to leave salty comments and reports on old threads like a goddam stalker, because he’s an angry turbolib who blames the left (and Eugene in particular, for some reason) for the pathetic failure of the corporate-c**k-sucking Democrats to defeat Donald Trump. There is plenty of evidence for all of those things.

Truly bizarre take, especially considering that what was expressly stated was that I didn't expressly look them up, and that the only 'salty comment' I left was when I was literally and explicitly mentioned by name, but thanks for confirming that this is all over you throwing a shitfit over my politics because I feel like getting murdered by Nazis is a bad deal. Sorry that my anger makes you uncomfortable over your bootlicking of Nazis.

At the very least, his behaviour around this has been petty and childish, not great qualities in a mod. And if he was even a slightly reasonable person, he probably wouldn’t have quit our instance in a huff, and started up a personal grudge community to stir up pointless drama all because of a 7 day temp ban.

"If you were a truly reasonable person, you would have sat down and meekly taken it from the Authorities like a good anarchist would!"

Sorry for not agreeing with you playing bizarre asspat games over my apparent biggest fan getting pissed that they get downvoted when I disagree with them?

And it’s pretty well known by now (except for you it seems) PJ has a bad temper, and that he’s been losing his shit more and more lately. He even states as such in his profile. While I do feel empathy for the fact he lives in chronic pain, that’s no excuse for harassing one of our users in this manner.

It's not chronic pain which causes me to dislike people who simp for Nazis and comments which reinforce that.

PJ has all the power in this situation as a “power mod” and very active poster.

What.

How does being an active poster give me power in this situation.

For that matter, how does being a mod give me power in this situation? So far as I know, my biggest fan doesn't even post in any of the comms I mod?

Are you just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks? lmao

I believe that Eugene was sincere in his complaint, and he was very upset by the situation.

... they've been upset for seven months now, then, considering that they bring me up at every opportunity to bitch about me when we rarely interact.

Like, Ghost is out here blatantly lying on things that I can (and have) literally quote to disprove, and you're pretending they're the victim. Because I'm a 'turbolib' for not wanting to get murdered by Nazis.

But hey, I get it, you need to asspat Nazi enablers like yourself, while people who are going to die because of the Nazis you ushered into office can fuck off. That's what true solidarity means over at dbzer0, it's quite apparent. :)

And the fact you are defending PJ here instead of believing the victim is concerning to me. Much like the “believe women” slogan during the #metoo movement, my default position is to believe my upset users, not to side with the person bullying them. That’s just how we roll at dbzer0 and I’m not gonna apologize for it.

So a seven month campaign of falsely calling me a transphobe and Zionist is okay, but downvoting someone is harassment?

Wew. You aren't even trying to pretend to have any standards, are you?

I mean, what’s the difference between your position here and something like, “Harvey Weinstein has made lots of great movies and nobody else has complained about him, so that woman must be lying”? There is no difference. PJ is just busy trying to launder his bruised reputation imo, and you are helping him with that project.

Y I K E S

Like I said, it's whatever. I'm an old hand online. I grew up on forums and imageboards, this kind of drama is old hat. I just want to have it clear and on record from me that it's bullshit when I see it brought up. Beyond that, it's not much more than irritating or amusing, depending on how pathetic any given attempt is.

Oh, I figure they're not going to listen. But I have the urge to at least put a defense of myself out in public. I have a great many flaws as it is; I'll good goddamned if I let people attribute made-up ones to me without at least being disputed.

Any moderating by me done on MeanwhileonGrad is if I mod coming straight from my inbox without checking the comm. I'm uncomfortable being a mod there.