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  • What is renting?

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  • I don't do the work to back up somebody else's opinion. And clearly other narratives have been put in front of me - look at this thread. None of it is backed up with anything but words except by me. Like, I literally sourced the Chinese government for stuff, but please tell me how me asking for somebody else to put a modicum of work into backing up what they believe is my problem.

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  • I'm not being adamant and I don't hold that opinion. That's why I'm asking for sources.

    Until told otherwise, I hold that it's just as bad as every other system. None are good, just different.

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  • What do you think "shared stewardship of the land" means?

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  • Awesome! Do you have another source for the pilot? I expect it's all in Mandarin and I am terrible at finding things in other languages.

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  • OK, do you have a source for the 90% home ownership rate?

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  • That's not backing it up, that's saying "nu uh" in an echo chamber.

    Do better. Cause I actually want proof. Like, please, give me proof it's better.

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  • Yeah, this may be splitting hairs. It seems to me that the Chinese and "western" systems are more similar than different.

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  • If they have to pay to renew the lease, that's is a kind of property tax, especially if an individual has to compete to buy their own lease. This may or may not be the case.

    There are also ostensibly value-added taxes and land appreciation taxes but I'll admit those are not property taxes per se.

    There is also this source that says that select cities such as Shanghai and Chongqing have pilot programs for property tax primarily targeted at high-value residential properties and secondary homes but they don't have any sources, so I have no clue if it's true.

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  • It does? Do you have anything to back up that claim?

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  • Then the government "owns" the land. Doing something like the tree that owns itself except with all land would be even better, assuming people respect the laws. My vision would be more of a shared stewardship of the land rather than a drive to exploit it.

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  • If they have to pay to renew the lease, that's is a kind of property tax, especially if an individual has to compete to buy their own lease. This may or may not be the case.

    As well, as long as property tax is paid it means the land can be held indefinitely. In the current systems, this is preferable. This is versus the land lease method where, if they don't renew the lease because you forgot or somebody is pissed off at you in the government, ejection could be automatic.

    There are also ostensibly value-added taxes and land appreciation taxes but I'll admit those are not property taxes per se.

    There is also this source that says that select cities such as Shanghai and Chongqing have pilot programs for property tax primarily targeted at high-value residential properties and secondary homes but they don't have any sources, so I have no clue if it's true.

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  • That's incorrect.

    Indigenous people as a general idea did not believe that land could be owned by an individual due to viewing the Earth as one's relative, requiring respect and care, as are all the animals and plant life the land supports. Judeo-Christian religions, likely along with many other religions that I haven't studied from Eurasia and Africa, view land as being able to be subjugated like cattle or sheep.

    This is unlikely to change until climate change and its disasters convince people that they need to actually take care of the earth.

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  • New dietary guidelines urge Americans to avoid processed foods and added sugar

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  • That's great but everyone knows guidelines don't do shit.

    Regulate the goddamn food companies to reduce the sugar and processing.

  • China: Jailed Hong Kong tycoon Jimmy Lai's 'teeth rotting and fingernails falling off', his daughter says - while authorities claim Lai is in 'good health' in denial of mistreatment

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  • How much do you make in the PLA?

  • Wordle 1,656 - Wednesday 2025-12-31

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  • Wordle 1,655 - Tuesday 2025-12-30

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  • Hey, same!

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