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  • Well at least you didn't call my body pasty white, I haven't been to the lake as much as I wanted this year.

    Joking aside, I believe vsauce had a short about this, was useful to get a visual.

  • Take your fuckin upvote and go hahah

  • Sounds like you're in a very rough spot at the moment. Keep going. I won't promise you everything will be solved, but things will change, inevitably, and change could be better. Good luck.

  • Agreed! Good chat with you, I enjoy these kinds of conversations, at least with reasonable people hahah. Take care, friend.

  • I didn't get any mockery from you directly, no. I have a bit of a sarcastic or overly dramatic flair from time to time, so I do apologize if it came across as aggravated or anything.

    I think the most empathetic thing to do for all parties would be to repair the wall. Then no one has to relive this obvious mistake. I'm merely making a case for extending empathy rather than judgement.

    For what its worth, yeah, you can be scared of someone who has broken a wall. People react to things differently, I'm not going to say you're not allowed to, and would quite prefer everyone be treated with respect and empathy. Honestly, though- is having a terror response to a simple broken wall with no context ANY better than (this is from another comment in the thread, I know these aren't your words) having an anger response to losing at fantasy football?

    Edit: ooooh I did say let's not extend mockery. That was directed at the meme in general, the building mgmt mocking the situation rather than just fixing it.

  • See, if anything, this comment should be framed and labeled toxic masculinity.

    In an effort to extend as much charity and empathy possible, what makes you say that? In my experience, it's not a hard and fast rule, the people who exploit those emotions are just shitty people. I've definitely felt that people were using my own sadness or other emotional vulnerabilities against me, and I've felt the opposite - love and support getting through those emotions. I tossed out the people who used me, and kept the ones around who supported me.

    Edit: hahah, kinda foot in mouth here, I just realized you're the guy who posted about Medicare and jobs earlier, and I kinda mocked you here. Imma leave this post as it stands, because I think it's a good conversation starter. I'll try to do better moving forward!

  • I feel you bud. Sometimes life just blindsides you and you need an outlet. I hope things improve for you soon.

  • Guys point is, we don't know the why. We only know the what. Sure, I think everyone can agree it's not the healthiest coping, but I don't know too many people who choose the healthy option in a state of extreme emotion. Is there ANY scenario you could imagine this being understandable, even if not good or healthy? Lots of people listing scenarios where I could TOTALLY see getting a rather reasonable person into such a mental state.

  • I'd say taking it out on a toilet stall would fall into at least attempting to not scare someone. Unless you're like, terrified of property damage you probably didn't witness happen. It's a wall in a secluded place designed for privacy. I can EASILY picture a scenario where someone receives bad news, goes to the bathroom to have their mental break in relative privacy, and slams their fist into the wall a bit harder than intended. This looks like one hit to me, so it's not like they're sitting there hammering away at the wall. That plaster is EASY to put a hole in. Life is messy, people are generally trying their best, no one got hurt, let's extend empathy rather than mockery.

  • No, punching signals anger. Anger doesn't have to be dangerous - for instance punching a wall, or the floor. Emotions are normal, we don't always deal with them in the most optimal manner, but I wouldn't label someone beating up the floor because he just found out he was NOT the father as "dangerous".

  • Yeah, that's pretty basic. I seem to recall the option to even search by OS/GPU being fairly hidden, but again, probably just misremembering.

  • The uncertainty principle is a fantastic example! I don't necessarily disagree that these unknowables are largely irrelevant to every day life. They're the minutiae that help an individual understand their 'place' in the vastness of the universe, but they don't really tell us anything about the things that... Well, matter.

    The biggest thing I think my world view has helped me with is, if I can accept some things are just inherently outside of my grasp as an individual, I don't have to try to justify or explain why we're here. We just are. Whatever the reason, let's make it the best time we can. It lets me focus on things that matter to me. And, for you, the thing that matters is resolving all of those things as logically as possible.

    And, as far as scripture goes, there are myriad interpretations for the meanings of the actual words written in the scriptures, at least Christian ones. They've gone through so many translations, rewrites, omissions, and blatant changes. It's... Well, unknowable what the original intentions of the authors were, but what we see now, the scriptures used to preach hate, are absolutely the result of millennia of people in places of power pushing agendas. Blind faith in something like a church is exactly what I meant when I said that about faith making you do something you wouldn't otherwise. Fuck that, form your own opinions on the things that matter, don't just take the ones from someone who swears they want the best for you.

  • I've done that before, yes, but I seem to recall it being a lot of hoops to go through. Could be misremembering it, as well though.

  • I've done that before, yes, but I seem to recall it being a lot of hoops to go through. Could be misremembering it, as well though.

  • I see faith and religion confused a lot. I'm pretty anti-religious, but I find myself fairly spiritual. There exist known, and knowable, things such as the number of cards and their values in a standard deck. We can know there is no fifth ace in the deck, and so we can know you will never pull a fifth ace.

    Unknowables, however, also exist. I already listed the example of the specifics of what goes on in another person's head, which - fair, you can make inferences and guesses, but we're still not able to know for certain what someone else is thinking. A more esoteric example for anther things in this category would be something like how a 4th spatial dimension would look. We, with our current biology, can't actually KNOW this. We can approximate it, and even develop an intuition, but we're simply not equipped with hardware to allow us to interpret that information. Or, that the sun will rise tomorrow. It's always happened so far, but I have nothing guaranteeing that it will happen. In fact, we know as a point of certainty that it will, one day, not rise. We have pinned down a timeframe we think this death will occur in, but we can't KNOW.

    We still engage with each day as if the sun WILL come up. And there may be overwhelming evidence that it will, but it may not. Similarly, the old thought experiment of us being in a simulation. Practically, we can't really know whether or not that's the case, but all but the most adamant about simulation theory are going to act as if it's not.

    To wrap it all back around, about militant atheism and the like - my view is that we all act on some degree of faith, and some people really glom onto a worldview that helps to explain our origins and meanings of our lives. And there's nothing wrong with that. The issues only start to arise when one person or groups faith starts to impress itself upon others. I don't care, in the slightest, what someone believes, it's only when they start asserting that their faith is fact, and when they start using said faith to justify mistreating anyone else.

    Edit: to address the thing about bigotry, I really don't think having some notion of Faith has much to do at all with one being a bigot. Bigotry tends to come from exclusion, because of fear and not understanding. This is why I have a problem with most RELIGIONS. Religions take your faith (i really like the term spirituality more here), something I think should be inherently personal, and dogmatize it, use it to form an in group and an out group, and use it as justification for the subjugation of the out group. Nothing to do with the faith/spirituality of the individual, a LOT to do with the biases of whatever leadership your in group has.

  • Can I not have to log in to download a bloody driver without jumping through a thousand hoops? Can I choose not to use it at all? Probably not, probably still shit.

  • Regarding the last point, I'm not at all religious, but I've accepted that even from a purely logical and scientific standpoint, you have to just accept some things on faith. Our capacity for knowing is limited, there are certain "unknowable" things that we just have to accept.

    The easiest example of this is what's going on in another person's head. You have to take on faith that the things they're saying to you is what's actually going on. More broadly, a lot of the things about the physical universe and the fact that it exists at all are things that, at least with our current level of science, we just can't know. We can make best guesses, but from there it's a faith.

    I'd say faith is only a bad thing when it's used to make you so things you wouldn't want to do otherwise. The more I examine the church specifically, the more I realize it's not the faith based approach to understanding that I have issues with, it's the leaders using that to manipulate. Faith is, and should be, a very personal thing not subject to some governing body with very real biases and objectives.

  • I address all of this in other areas in this thread. I don't feel like rehashing it with you, given your unwarranted aggression out of the gate. If you want to read some actual rebuttal, go for it. Otherwise, enjoy your life.

  • I didn't say it was created to hinder the poor.

    I said fines DISPROPORTIONATELY PUNISH THE POOR.

    If you have $1000, a $200 fine is 20% of your money.

    If you have $2,000,000 a fine of $200 is . 0001% of your money, basically nothing.

    This means that, relative to their money, a poorer person hurts more from the same fine. This is a BAD IDEA for enforcing rules everyone is supposed to follow. Essentially, we're encouraging people to drive slow, unless they can pay the toll for speeding.

    There are ways to mitigate this - sliding scale fines, for instance. I personally don't like fines as punishments in general, though. I'd rather use neutral traffic calming features, that always invariably impact people who use the route the same, and make it a criminal offense to drive recklessly, akin to drunk driving.