The people who didn't participate are roughly those who never do.
2020:
Biden - 81.2 million
Trump - 74.2 million
2024:
Harris: 75 million
Trump: 77.3 million
Even if we assume Trump took all 3 million extra votes from Biden's 2020 voters, there are still 3 million Biden 2020 voters who didn't turn out for Harris. They cared enough to vote against Trump the 2nd time, just not this time.
Anyway, you are right in the sense that those few million likely wouldn't have tipped the election anyway. You are dead wrong that they don't matter. Completely counterproductive lesson to take from the election
Ironically for the old racist man we now have less white Europeans immigrants as before and more from Africa and India regions, at least in the area I live. I love it how it's backfired on him.
Yes! I really tried to explain this to people. One guy I saw on the news said he was voting Brexit to "get the Muslims out," apparently completely unaware of how batshit insane it is to leave the European Union to reduce the number of non European people in Britain.
My future, my son's future, all now shaped in a more restrictive way because of people's views like this.
Yeah it fucking sucks. I left before the official Brexit date, in a year or two I will hopefully have an EU citizenship again. Most of my friends couldn't have really done that so easily
More than 52% of British people in 2016 and still more than many now, I bet. I always supported Remain but before I voted I wanted to do my due diligence and re-evaluate. It took googling "brexit pros and cons" and all of 5 minutes reading a BBC infographic to confirm that basically everything the leave campaign said was completely and utterly wrong.
The fact that most people still voted for it despite the obvious lies was way more disappointing to me than the racism. Back then I thought better of people.
It says they welcome anything from social democracy to anarchism so how you got "tankie community" is a mystery to me. Yet another chapter in "everyone I don't like on Lemmy is a tankie."
I have been subscribed for a while and haven't seen any support of Stalin or Mao or whoever. I think these people are monsters and yet I'm still here.
It's not an issue, they can just make it up. You see, everyone is stupid when you imagine that they have a stupid position and ignore any evidence to the contrary.
In that spirit, I'm pretty sure the person you're talking to just took a shit on their ballot. So really this is all their fault.
Hilarious. Why do a less committed version of the same shitty politics as the other party? Who the fuck is this going to win over? Did you miss what happened in November?
I would ask if they were high but that would encourage creativity and awaken any remaining embers of idealism so it can't be the case.
Anyone who defended Biden and Harris on this never made it their problem in the first place. They didn't care.
my problem now is a fascist dictatorship taking over my country because your movement couldn't see more than one step ahead.
Not my movement. I still advocated voting for Harris.
And it's actually because "your" movement thought you could convince enough people to hold their nose and vote for someone they didn't like but you were wrong.
It's great for you that you don't care about the genocide going on. I bet that's nice. It's not so great for you that your complete and utter inability to understand your countrymen led you into this disaster. Maybe listen to well intentioned critics next time?
I know it wasn't you personally but you see what I mean.
If people in some far off land have to die so that we can give LGBTQA+ people a place to feel safe so be it.
Thanks for this wonderful summary of exactly what was wrong with many democrat supporters in this election campaign.
They don't have to die do they? That is the whole fucking point. How many LGBT+ people do you think would agree with this? "Yeah lots of kids died but it's worth it as long as I am protected."
If you don't care about Gaza it's fine. That's your business. But let's not pretend it's some trade for the benefit of a group of people you cannot possibly speak for.
After Palestine, the most dangerous places to be a journalist in 2024 were Lebanon and Pakistan (6 journalists killed in each country), Sudan, Bangladesh and Mexico (5 killed in each) as well as Ukraine (4 journalists killed).
2020:
Biden - 81.2 million
Trump - 74.2 million
2024:
Harris: 75 million
Trump: 77.3 million
Even if we assume Trump took all 3 million extra votes from Biden's 2020 voters, there are still 3 million Biden 2020 voters who didn't turn out for Harris. They cared enough to vote against Trump the 2nd time, just not this time.
Anyway, you are right in the sense that those few million likely wouldn't have tipped the election anyway. You are dead wrong that they don't matter. Completely counterproductive lesson to take from the election