also, i know his content has changed in the last week or so as he got a new PC, but i was seeing a lot of cool indie roguelite games in NorthernLion's youtube videos over the last few months
Sol Cesto looked very cool but i dunno about the depth. some others were demos only but looked cool, like Insider Trading and Ball x Pit
Reviewing this list of games i've played in the last 5 years again, I really have to shout out Roboquest more because i don't think that game got anywhere near enough love.The artstyle might throw some off, and the underlying nothing story might be a bit sappy, but the movement and progression fucking ruled so hard
Monster Train 2 defRoboquest and/or Voidbreaker is you like twitchy FPS (as you seem to like roguelite-spinoff genres), Voidbreaker is UE5 though so it might run like shit depending on hardwareHe is Coming is good but a bit too light on for me9 KingsVampire SurvivorsDeath Must DieCaves of Qud (goated but extremely deep)Risk of Rain 1/2InscryptionHollow Knight of course
Also, yes Salo is a particularly disgusting film but I think I get it
the critique of fascism and fash/nazi occultism, regularly under the drone of impending doom of bombers flying overhead, was definitely interesting. it was still incredibly fucked up though, even if i have seen more shocking imagery/footage around the internet
NOTE: I AM NOT RELITIGATING A STRUGGLE SESSION, BUT ADDING SOME INFO TO A DAY OLD POST I MISSED BUT WAS DIRECTLY TAGGED IN
Regarding the post about the film Together (2025) and edits made to/censorship of the chinese theatrical release:
Hey, so I was out all yesterday and completely missed this thread and ensuing light struggle session but I'll give some additional context as I know it:
The writer & director had no fucking idea lmao, he was completely blindsided by the changes and only found out when journalists in China (as to who they work for, no idea soz) started asking him questions about editing the cut and sent him basically the same screenshot (i think from a different platform, caption was different but it's the exact same comparison screenshot of the film). He first found out on the 15th. There are some other funny edits, such as additional steam vfx blurring Dave Franco's bare ass in the shower scene and some others he hasn't dropped in the group chat.
Seems like the producers & Neon people were claiming to have had no idea either, as they all apparently went straight to the lawyers after a day or so and were basically asking Michael to make the decision on whether to completely pull from China or not as they had 'clear breaches' of contracts and literal 'admissions' that the film had been altered without consent. At this point he's not making any additional money on where it's being distributed, so allowing him the decision to completely pull it and lose someone millions seems like an admission that someone fucked up/gambled wrong.
Without having read the thread for any investigation on the intricacies of film distribution in China, I can only go off a conversation we had last week when we were halfway to getting decently drunk and watching Salo at a cinema on Wednesday night. It seems like he's been told by various legal people/producers that this happens a bit - The distributors buy it and just make changes without authorisation to seemingly pre-empt the ratings/censor's office and hope that the hollywood crackers either never find out or care. As to whether it is a case of pre-alteration before submission to the gov, changes made by the gov / requested alterations, or even a sneaky recut provided to the chinese distributor without the director's knowledge, I can't say for sure. There seemed to be some suggestions that Michael's legal could demand that some alterations be reversed and have the distributor resubmit the film, which lends a bit of credence to the idea that distributors just fucking do this but go too far, self-censoring beyond necessity before even seeking gov approval or a film rating/classification.
Either way, the whole thing was a bit overshadowed by his second film being greenlit, but he was legitimately pissed at the alterations and now having to make a choice where he could be perceived as throwing LGBTQIA+ people under the bus for money (when he makes no additional money whatsoever from the film being distributed anywhere) or being seen as sinophobic and getting no traction in China ever again if he pulls it or blames anyone in China for the issue.
unrelated, but apparently the film was doing quite well in russia.
Yeah, my honest immediate reaction was 'do not pull it' and I don't think he did, but not 100% sure of the outcome. Maybe they demanded some reversals and resubmission.He's not even an australian citizen lol, you don't want to be starting diplomatic events
Ayo! So I was out all yesterday and completely missed this thread and ensuing light struggle session but I'll give some additional context as I know it:
The writer & director had no fucking idea lmao, he was completely blindsided by the changes and only found out when journalists in China (as to who they work for, no idea soz) started asking him questions about editing the cut and sent him basically the same screenshot (i think from a different platform, caption was different but it's the exact same comparison screenshot of the film). He first found out on the 15th. There are some other funny edits, such as additional steam vfx blurring Dave Franco's bare ass in the shower scene and some others he hasn't dropped in the group chat.
Seems like the producers & Neon people were claiming to have had no idea either, as they all apparently went straight to the lawyers after a day or so and were basically asking Michael to make the decision on whether to completely pull from China or not as they had 'clear breaches' of contracts and literal 'admissions' that the film had been altered without consent. At this point he's not making any additional money on where it's being distributed, so allowing him the decision to completely pull it and lose someone millions seems like an admission that someone fucked up/gambled wrong.
Without having read the thread for any investigation on the intricacies of film distribution in China, I can only go off a conversation we had last week when we were halfway to getting decently drunk and watching Salo at a cinema on Wednesday night. It seems like he's been told by various legal people/producers that this happens a bit - The distributors buy it and just make changes without authorisation to seemingly pre-empt the ratings/censor's office and hope that the hollywood crackers either never find out or care. As to whether it is a case of pre-alteration before submission to the gov, changes made by the gov / requested alterations, or even a sneaky recut provided to the chinese distributor without the director's knowledge, I can't say for sure. There seemed to be some suggestions that Michael's legal could demand that some alterations be reversed and have the distributor resubmit the film, which lends a bit of credence to the idea that distributors just fucking do this but go too far, self-censoring beyond necessity before even seeking gov approval or a film rating/classification.
Either way, the whole thing was a bit overshadowed by his second film being greenlit, but he was legitimately pissed at the alterations and now having to make a choice where he could be perceived as throwing LGBTQIA+ people under the bus for money (when he makes no additional money whatsoever from the film being distributed anywhere) or being seen as sinophobic and getting no traction in China ever again if he pulls it or blames anyone in China for the issue.
unrelated, but apparently the film was doing quite well in russia.
Hey, so I was out all yesterday and completely missed this thread and ensuing light struggle session but I'll give some additional context as I know it:
The writer & director had no fucking idea lmao, he was completely blindsided by the changes and only found out when journalists in China (as to who they work for, no idea soz) started asking him questions about editing the cut and sent him basically the same screenshot (i think from a different platform, caption was different but it's the exact same comparison screenshot of the film). He first found out on the 15th. There are some other funny edits, such as additional steam vfx blurring Dave Franco's bare ass in the shower scene and some others he hasn't dropped in the group chat.
Seems like the producers & Neon people were claiming to have had no idea either, as they all apparently went straight to the lawyers after a day or so and were basically asking Michael to make the decision on whether to completely pull from China or not as they had 'clear breaches' of contracts and literal 'admissions' that the film had been altered without consent. At this point he's not making any additional money on where it's being distributed, so allowing him the decision to completely pull it and lose someone millions seems like an admission that someone fucked up/gambled wrong.
Without having read the thread for any investigation on the intricacies of film distribution in China, I can only go off a conversation we had last week when we were halfway to getting decently drunk and watching Salo at a cinema on Wednesday night. It seems like he's been told by various legal people/producers that this happens a bit - The distributors buy it and just make changes without authorisation to seemingly pre-empt the ratings/censor's office and hope that the hollywood crackers either never find out or care. As to whether it is a case of pre-alteration before submission to the gov, changes made by the gov / requested alterations, or even a sneaky recut provided to the chinese distributor without the director's knowledge, I can't say for sure. There seemed to be some suggestions that Michael's legal could demand that some alterations be reversed and have the distributor resubmit the film, which lends a bit of credence to the idea that distributors just fucking do this but go too far, self-censoring beyond necessity before even seeking gov approval or a film rating/classification.
Either way, the whole thing was a bit overshadowed by his second film being greenlit, but he was legitimately pissed at the alterations and now having to make a choice where he could be perceived as throwing LGBTQIA+ people under the bus for money (when he makes no additional money whatsoever from the film being distributed anywhere) or being seen as sinophobic and getting no traction in China ever again if he pulls it or blames anyone in China for the issue.
unrelated, but apparently the film was doing quite well in russia.
isn't that the Tucc with hair?