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  • Try listening to what I am actually saying then, instead of imagining it and going with your feelings. I haven’t once said “not voting will stop genocide.”

    I didn't accuse you of saying "not voting will stop genocide". I said it's absurd for folks like you to seriously put genocide on the average voter and claim they will "continue to let genocide happen" (your words, directly quoted).

    I said “voting will not stop genocide.”

    Okay, so not voting will not stop genocide either-- so why do believe those who vote Dems are "letting genocide happen" if you're simultaneously acknowledging that not voting won't stop genocide either? It's almost as if these people understand that genocide will happen regardless, but they also understand the death toll under a Trump administration would be higher than under a Harris administration.

    Neither option is acceptable and the genocidal US Empire needs to be torn down.

    Yeah that's great and all, but we're faced with essentially one of two options. Not voting or throwing your vote away simply aids a Republican win and it's exactly why folks like Jill Stein are adored by Trump and Putin.

    Thirdly, the current death toll is already estimated to surpass 150,000 either way.

    So you believe that if under a Trump administration there were say, 50% more deaths in Palestine, those lives are irrelevant or meaningless? Like come on, you completely dodged my question and it was a pretty simple question-- are you okay with a higher death toll under a Trump administrator, or do you seriously believe the death toll would remain the same or lower?

    Frankly I'm sick and tired of folks like you jumping in discussions like this and then giving half-assed answers. It's a waste of everyone's time. This is purity politics from people who don't really care if another 400,000 Palestinians die under a Trump administration, just as long as they can smugly say "not my fault, I didn't vote for Trump". And if Harris wins and another 100,000 Palestinians die instead of 400,000, they'll say "not my fault, I didn't vote for Harris" and act like that's the highest moral high ground imaginable.

  • Can you be more specific?

    Are you familiar with the history of the Black Panthers and their demise? Because if not, I'm really not interested in giving you a history lesson. Their movement failed because it primarily revolved around two people/personalities that, once deceased, failed to be replaced by anyone viewed by supporters as adequate. So when you give the Black Panthers as an example of building up dual power to upset the system, I have a hard time taking that seriously when that's not at all what happened.

    You should read organizational and revolutionary theory. Capitalism and Imperialism are unsustainable, revolution will come whether leftists prepare for it or not.

    I've read plenty of theory and I'm tired of leftists who have their head stuck in theory instead of reality. Are you prepared to go to prison for your political action? If your answer is yes, I gotta ask-- have you ever actually been in prison? Because I think a lot of chest-beating leftists, especially the way they conduct themselves to people that disagree with them, would be in very a very harsh reality check if they went to prison. And I'm not talking about a holding cell.

  • Organizing and directly contesting. Build up dual power and risk upsetting the current system. The Black Panthers did it, John Brown did it, MLK Jr. did it.

    Can you be more specific? The examples you have 1) operated on a far more localized scale and dealt with domestic politics compared to international conflict between Israel/Palestine and all the countries involved behind the scenes and 2) The Black Panthers accomplished a great deal, but their overall goals did not come to fruition in the end. Racism is still rampant in America, police brutality against black people is still largely ignored excluding the occasional major outrage (i.e. George Floyd), and the American system is about as capitalist as it gets so the BPs socialist agenda didn't take root at all.

    Once Newton and Hampton were gone, so were the Black Panthers. Most leftist organizing I see is unfortunately centralized around a handful of leaders whose followers believe are irreplaceable, which IMO is not a desirable trait for anything involving continuity. Everyone dies, some earlier than others, and having no effective contingency plan is a blunder so many political movements have.

    Beyond that, government surveillance is beyond what we've ever seen before. Organizing political action, especially radical political action, gets shut down faster than ever and we don't often talk about it in leftist spaces because usually all that happens is someone gets their door kicked in, arrested, charged, convicted, and basically told "we've put you through one horrible traumatic experience, think carefully if you want to go through this again". We can beat out chests and say "I'm not afraid of shit" but I think the vast majority of leftists a) haven't been in prison and b) haven't a clue about what it's like in there. Prison's no joke and frankly I completely understand why regular ass people, especially those with dependants like kids, are extremely reluctant to organize in any way that could impact their employment/ability to support their loved ones. We live in an age where cracking a joke about Trump can result in a bunch of freak Republicans doing everything they can to get you fired.

  • I feel like folks like you practically get off to making bad faith arguments about how regular ass voters are "letting genocide happen" and imply that by not voting, you're doing something effective to stop it.

    I have to ask, hypothetically if the Palestinian death toll increased to 60,000 under a Harris presidency, and it increased to 150,000 under a Trump presidency, would you have any preference for one administration over the other if you could go back in time, or do you believe the 90,000+ death difference is meaningless? I'd genuinely like to know your answer to this question because to me it's like telling someone there's no difference between having one leg chopped off and both legs chopped off, and then hearing from some smug person in the back saying "how about we don't chop any legs off?" like it's the idea of the century that nobody has ever thought of before.

  • As bad as reddit is, it does suck that a lot of people who left decided to wipe all their comments/posts too. Huge amount of useful data just gone.

  • OP literally said they knocked and there was no answer, FFS

  • Before Signal made the boneheaded move of removing SMS support, it was so much easier for me to pitch the idea of using Signal to my friends and family, most of which eventually did make the shift from SMS to Signal messages for reasons like ease of use when it came to group chats, sending images/videos, voice clips, etc.

    But now? Now it's one of those embarrassing moments where I hear back from people basically all saying "your tech recommendations are usually on point but uh, what happened with Signal???" because the app just abruptly stopped supporting SMS and ruined the seamless appeal. SMS support was the perfect way to ease people into shifting towards Signal messages and now the only damn people I know who still know Signal are my most privacy-minded friends/family, while everyone else has switched back to WhatsApp.

    Clearly I'm not bitter...😅 But I mean like, come on. I had the most notorious luddites in my social circle make the switch to Signal and they loved it. The shift from SMS to Signal messages was so smooth so many of them didn't even have that "I miss [SMS stuff]", plus they LOVED that Signal could be used on their laptops in addition to their phones. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this annoys me so much.

  • You're definitely a white guy lol, thanks for the laugh. You really can't see how being a white guy and having the privilege that comes with that isn't relevant to a discussion about privacy and security, really? Like come on, I'm a POC but as a man, I also am well aware of how ridiculously privileged I am when it comes to being a little careless about my privacy and security.

    Never commenting, but only showing votes could result in someone getting doxxed because their up/downvotes could be about regional instances, i.e. their city/state. Why play dumb about what can be used to dox someone? You really think one needs a home address as a starting point to dox someone? Regional plants and their growth stages can be used to dox people who post local photos online without thinking twice about security and while that obviously won't result in a home address right away, breadcrumbs leave a trail. You clearly just haven't thought about this much becaaaaaaause... like I said, privileged white guy that can afford to not consider this stuff.

  • Pfft, speak for yourself 😏I'm too poor to afford a TV.

    In all seriousness, I can't afford a TV but wouldn't buy one if I could because the dual monitor setup I have + a mini projector > modern TV nonsense. My projector isn't anything fancy-- just a 720p bulb projector but I'm convinced that 4K, maybe/probably 8K laser projectors will be the endgame for many people, simply because at that point the resolution to screen size ratio for most people will be where the law of diminishing returns really starts to kick in.

    In 2024, nearly 60% of Steam users are still using 1080p monitors-- myself included. The shift for the average person from 1080p to 4K is taking considerably longer than the shift from 720p to 1080p. 1080p came out in 2007, 4K came out in 2012. Only a 5 year difference but 1080p remains king for the time being specifically because 4K is too expensive for the average person and harder to justify, particularly for computer monitors.

    For TVs, I think there's always going to be the core chunk of people who just mindlessly buy smart TVs without putting any thought into privacy but I really do think that long term, we're going to see a shift towards laser projectors that just accept video inputs from whatever source a person's using, i.e. a Kodi box, PC, etc. Part of why I think this is because laser projection even during daytime is amazing.

    I'm rambling away but yeah, I think at a certain point between the ads and the fact that most people don't care that much about 4K over 1080p (especially considering the enormous price difference), people are going to tap out soon.

  • People still use Tasker? That makes me smile. I remember using it way back in the day and it was just incredible seeing the things other people came up with. Tasker allowed for so many features that took iOS and Android years to implement.

  • 8 TB but I'm just a regular Joe with a penchant for piracy.

  • Can you see how easily one can use that logic to basically be as abusive as they want online and be A-OK with their online account being held accountable as long as it doesn't actually impact their personal life?

  • You mentioned accountability. Do you believe that only extends to an online profile?

  • Opt in would be far more of a reasonable option .

  • Just curious, are you a man? Specifically, are you a white man? Because pretty much every POC and woman I know is far more privacy/safety conscious than damn near every white guy I've met who just lives his life with a ho-hum attitude about privacy/security.

    If someone never comments in their regional instance but merely upvotes a post or comment, it's ridiculous that this info should be made public because it can easily lead to someone getting doxxed. It's so noble of you that you're more than happy to stand up for what you think, but I really wonder how folks like you would feel if that involved your home address being targeted.

  • Read OP's post. I swear to god like 50% of people in this thread are chopped.

  • Nice dodging. Here's hoping you get doxxed someday, I think that would be hilarious.

  • So because it's hard for you to access but easier for others, it's not a problem? One user could just publicize the info on a more accessible website.

  • Sure sounds like a lot of victim blaming to me. If someone upvoted a post in their city's regional instance but never commented, it's insane to me that a) that vote should be publicly viewable and b) people would blame the user.