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Discussion - Potential piefed instance in the future?
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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 8mo ago
Yes.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

This is what I was referring to, your understanding is distorted because BOTH fall under the discoverability. You're bending the reality around you so that it fits your agenda ignoring literally anything that is said to you. The communities aren't forced upon you either as it's you choosing which feeds you follow the exact same way posts are added to a community you follow so they're not forced upon you buddy. Or what, should we get rid of communities as well? XDD Let's go back to microblogging where we can scream into the void that we can't navigate through due to almost nothing of organisation besides the tags maybe that can't even be moderated unlike communities/feeds. I guess we should get rid of the concept of tags too given your perspective on organisaton and discoverability of things you're interested in? Some of your points are valid but a lot of them are incoherent and ignore reality. Some of the suggestions are terrible for everyone out there too due to ignoring of that reality. I'd work great if the world worked the way you perceive it through your mind though.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

That's some really distorted understanding of "discoverability" that you have in your head. Sorry for your loss. :(

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

How'd you follow a feed to regularly visit if not without subscribing to it? The person you responded to complained that communities may get unwanted traffic if they were included in bad feeds. So while you suggested subscribers only comments and it would work for 'all' feed to filter out low effort trolls it wouldn't work with feeds where they are already subscribed to it.

Just like with communities where you don't look them up each time you want to see their content and you subscribe to them to have them easily accessible on you subscribed list or in subscribed feed the same would go for feeds.

I may have missed your subtle suggestion somewhere about changing the behavior of feeds in which case the feature would check out although that would cause some friction still when it comes to ease of interaction.

I mean if you click on subscribe, to subscribe to all the communities within, that’s kind of intended behaviour?!

The conversation isn't about fair users anyway. If someone comes in without care about community talking bs then it wouldn't matter if you gave them option to avoid it because they would do it anyway. Just like people don't bother with block feature which there always was.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

restrict commenting or voting to subscribers only.

Feeds subscribe you to those communities. Maybe if the feature didn't do that it would make more sense but with the current way things work it would require a different solution. Personally I strongly believe in granular control over to which feeds the community gets added with default opt-in where mods can react if something unwanted starts happening.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

It's more about users not giving a damn which can already be seen with users using 'all' feed downvoting or responding with unfitting comments to things that they should have just ignored but didn't because it showed up to them.

If the user visits feed expecting specific content just like they'd expect from community and treat it as such there's a good chance they'd contribute but not in positive way.

The feature is in a testing phase to find bugs and collect ideas and will be improved with time so such problems would hopefully be minimised. In which direction will the feature progress is something I don't know and from my understanding the devs don't fully know either but they're definitely interested in allowing more control over things like community opting out (or in?) from a specific feeds as a second option besides opting out from the feature completely. In what form the mods will have the tools to control to which feeds their communities belong I don't know but there's a lot of interest in it.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

Feed isn't a place you can post to. It just collects posts from different communities into one feed/stream.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

???

Just don't use public feeds and have your own private feeds split into topics you're interested in where you don't have communities you dislike included. You have all the autonomy you need. No one tells you to subscribe to that one specific feed that doesn't curate the communities in the way you like. Just use it to organise your own subscriptions to have them by topics or catered for different moods of the day.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

Oooooooh, love u.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

Subscribing to the feed subscribes to communities in them = federation solved.

On top of that the content is over there organised for you which is not something you otherwise have. You have discoverability solved in 2 ways. If someone has a good feed and you see a cool community missing you can message the owner for them to add it building the collection as a community.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

c/all is worse imo and with feeds you will at least have control over picking topics you're interested in unlike c/all. We should be focusing on opting out from c/all more as it causes far more damage and it's been that way for a long time unlike feeds on such a small platform that just got the feature implemented.

Also the opt-in would be a great way to KILL the entire feature that's been the most hyped up and requested feature across the entire threadiverse. BRUH

Imagine having all communities opted out from c/all by default. That would be stupid and make everything hard to access.

Opt-out on the other hand for public feeds specifically is something that I support. But then good luck having that supported on lemmy where almost all communities exist.

E: c/all is just one monolithic feed forced on all users for better perspective about the issue. With custom feeds much like with communities you pick out your interests and follow them specifically and it's all optional. I don't see how it could cause more damage than this.

1y ago

Piefed has feeds now!

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

Less goo!

1y ago

Physical copies of Assassin's Creed Shadows leak nearly a month ahead of its release date

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

Stolen physical copies. Supposedly they postponed the game release last moment so it already got distributed and things started getting funny.

1y ago

Adding two new admins and introducing radical recalls

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

Ye, was telling the fxomt the same as to why I wasn't even advocating for piefed seriously outside jokes between us. I know that you have a dumb amount of things on your head with the current stuff.

1y ago

Adding two new admins and introducing radical recalls

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Martineski @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1y ago

I agree on being mature part and it can be waited on in that regard. I disagree about migrating the instance to the platform and believe it would make more sense as a separate thing. As for time I'd be willing to help out with whatever I can (with my limited capabilities) if this was ever to happen. 2026 will be the #yearofpiefed for sure!