A 50-something French dude that's old enough to think blogs are still cool, if not cooler than ever. I also like to write and to sketch.
Debout depuis 4h, il a fallu que j'attende que la boulangerie ouvre ses portes mais j'ai enfin pu acheter des croissants et des pains au chocolat pour qui en veut. Pas de chocolatine, non. Nous refusons de nous compromettre avec de telles ignominies ici à Paris :P
- There will one Internet for us and one for the powerful people.
Theirs will be what they want it to be, while ours will be:
- Without any right to privacy (no pseudonym like mine, no VPN, no email aliases and obviously no true cryptography or fully encrypted whatever service: they will legally own the keys and the know the ID of all of us), and with constant tracking of our every moves and words. All of that because 'think of the children' and, like you rightfully mentioned, in the name of protecting every single individual so-called right to not 'feel offended'. While in reality they just want us to remain silent.
- That Web will be the online version of what Malls used to be, just a lot worse. It will be a place to consume, not a place where we are allowed to think and discuss. With little room left to personal websites/blogs, or amateur content because...
- Like with access to VPN that is now being questioned, I doubt It will remain legal for a mere people like us to even own a personal website and a domain name. Businesses, sure. People? Nope (see the "think of the children" and the "don't offend anyone" in the 1st point). Instead we will all be pushed toward using 'social media', those owned by a few well known-corporations not any Libre ones.
- Saturated with ads, obviously it's the main use of that Web: to sell us stuff. With laws and regulations (like we already have against copying and removing DRM from what is supposedly ours since we purchased it) that will make it a crime to obfuscate or not watch said ads (making it a crime to use an adblocker, or at least one that really works). They may even manage to make it impossible to not display ads on one's 'own' online space whether they want it or not.
- Filled with garbage content that will be deemed good enough for most of us which, coincidentally, will be made a lot easier since most educative systems, here in the West, have decided it was not useful to teach kids how to properly read and write, or how to properly use critical thinking anymore. So, stupid content for a stu... uneducated population, perfect world.
- Content written and made by AI, undoubtedly. Good enoughn much cheaper and with zero risk of letting escape any unwanted data or piece of information that would allow some of us to realize maybe things are not right the way they are.
- A lot of 'amusing' content, to keep us entertained (and not thinking).
- Probably a lot of (carefully selected) porn too, since lifelong celibacy seems it could become a real issue while people will still have 'natural urges' to satisfy even without a partner.
One day, while playing in their great-grandparents attic, a kid living in that society will find an object long forgotten. It will be all dusty and they will brush it to realize it has a shiny cover with bright colors. They will open it and gasp in surprise. The interior looks like if a pile of sheets of paper were glued together. They will flip those sheets and will wonder what use was there for all those black squiggly lines running all over them. What was it used for? And then, already bored with that odd object without a screen, with multimedia, that kid will put it back with all the other dusty objects not knowing this object used to be called a book and that those odd squiggly lines were called print. And that people were able to read books and they were used to help people learn and think better, or just have fun all by themselves. That kid will swiftly move back to the living room because the next episode of some series is soon to begin and, with everyone else in the family watching their very own content in silent, while they all wait for the meal to be delivered by some Uber drone. At one moment, that little kid will realize their fingers are all dirty from the dust in the attic, they will shrug and quickly move their attention back to their screen because its the ads playing, every 3 minutes, and they're always the most exciting content of the show!
A perfect world.
The real exploit is figuring out how to be human in a world that wants us to be data points.
100%, and this is the hardest fight all of us will ever have to fight because there is a lot of incredibly powerful interests that want us to become, and to remain, mere 'data points', not people. They want us to stop thinking we're equal to them. They want us to be ok with not being... considered and treated as human beings.
When we stop being human like those powerful people, it's the moment they feel its perfectly OK to have a cop fire shots at a women sitting in her car, you know. Because we're not people, we're mere... headless chickens, or data points.Not that such an attitude would ever be tolerated in our perfect democracies.
+1 for the 2370DN. Works wonder (with Linux, Mac and Windows) and replaced a 12 years old model from... Brother that also worked well.
Merci! Moi non plus je suis pas admin réseau mais j'aurais pu, hein. Non, je deconne c'ets vraiment l'aspect de toutes ces technos qui me semble le plus insondablement... trouble ;)
Tu dois avoir raison, j'ai un toggle pour le DHCP, ce qui semble inchangeable c'est le DNS sur la BBOX... Sans surprise, j'ai certainement confusionné les deux j'en ai peur ;)
Sorry, I just noticed your reply. I think you were replying to my other comment, right?
I’m 24, unemployed, job searching in tech. Most employers require LinkedIn, GitHub, email. My actual community - the people I game with, the friends who get me - are scattered across the continent
I’m aware of how intricate everything is, even more so for people your age. And it seems obvious it will be even worse for the next generation.
Your cross-referencing and source verification advice is solid, but it requires people to first recognize they’re in an algorithmic environment
Not really, what it requires is to accept that not a single source not even the ones we agree with should be treated differently. All sources must be double-checked. This requires a little effort most of us are just not willing to do. Much simpler and quicker to Boost or to Like that message we just read.
I hear you on offline community being the real answer. But for those of us who can’t or won’t fully disconnect, reducing the attack surface and building privacy-respecting alternatives feels like the next best thing.
Sorry, it seems I have not made my point clear enough.
The solution is certainly not to move back to offline or to stone-age like tools. But the solution is also not in thinking that some new or different type of tech will be the solution. To me, that is falling from one trap to the next. In French, we would say “tomber de Charybde en Scylla”.
Blind faith in tech put us in that dire situation. Tech won’t get us out of it.
The solution needs to include both online/high-tech and offline, low-tech and even no-tech. It needs to encourage us to rekindle our interest for IRL communities and activities, to care about our surrounding and the people around us. Even if they do not share the same interest and ideas as us.
That solution needs to focus on us, not on the tech itself.
Like educating children never was about having them do homework or get good grades (that’s a by-product) or it should not have mattered ever _provided teachers were still taught how to properly educate kids. Obsessing over the homework (and the grade) like obsessing with tech being the solution is most probably a mistake. Education is about transmitting a certain knowledge and a certain know-how to the kids (the ability to rely on themselves, for example).
I remember, years ago, reading an interview of the late Steve jobs in which he explained he and his spouse refused to allow their kids unlimited use an iPhone/iPad at home and they would not even use one themselves, and that it was forbidden to being a phone/tablet at the dining table, no TV either. They wanted them to have activities and conversations, with other kids, with the family and they wanted them to have time by themselves. Steve Jobs probably knew a thing or two about those high-tech device, right?(For the very, very young among us, it may be worth mentioning Steve Jobs was the co-founder of Apple and the one who introduced the Mac computer (1984), the iPod (~2000}, the iPhone (2007) and the iPad (2010) among a few other similar piece of tech that no ones cares about)
Alberta doesn’t exactly have the densest scene for the communities I’m part of.
I can’t argue on that but I can make a remark: how many people do live in Alberta and how many do you think would there need to be for you to able to meet one you may find interesting to date? And then, why do you think your potential next partner needs to share the same interests as you?
(my spouse is writing computer code, she is kinda good at it while before I met her I had never considered even writing a simple script to automate the boring repetitive tasks I liked to complain about. We’re as different as night and day, and not just on that point, but we also managed to find each other and it has been going fine for 25+ years and counting, being different together is great ;)
All I will say about dating today (at least what I can witness of it as, if I don’t really obsess about dating young women myself, I’m still able to see what’s going on) is that contemporary dating looks like a full time job, with business-like expectations. Heck, it’s even treated like a marketplace with offer and demand! And I think you, I don’t mean you I mean all of you young people, you should all stop running around like headless chicken (you would realize you’re running like them, if you stopped long enough to look around) and ask yourself two simple questions:
- Why has dating turned into a full time job? With all those silly expectations, the ranking and the body count non-sense, and all the absurd requirements (money, status, body height or weight, size of the boobs, ass or d!ck, with even expectation on ideas and preferences… ). With apparently a lot more anxiety than fun (once gain if I can judge on what I observe).
- Does it really benefit you in any shape or form?
Merci :)
Ensuite, tu as 2 solutions : tu changes ton DNS sur chaque appareils. C’est bien pour tester, mais ce n’est pas fou. Le mieux est de changer ton DNS global sur ta box Bouygues.
J'ai regardé dans les réglages de la Box, c'est indiqué que le paramètre est non modifiable... ce qui me limite donc à changer le DNS sur chaque appareil?
Ca rend la suggestion de ivn encore plus séduisante: tant qu'à changer tous les DNS un par un autant ne pas en plus devoir installer un nouvel appareil chez moi, et me contenter de pointer vers les DNS de Mullvad.
Je pense que c’est clair mais j'ai du mal à visualiser le fiocntionnement. je vais me faire un petit schéma sur un bout de papier et tenter de voir comment ce que tu décris fonctionnerait dans ma situation. Mais d'abord, je vais creuser la suggestion, avantages et limites de la proposition de ivn parce que si c’est utilisable comme ça en à l’air, ça demanderait sensiblement moins de bidouille (et moins de matos)
Je n’hésiterais pas à poser plus de questions, ne t’inquiètes pas… ou alors peut-être que tu devrais ? ;)
pourquoi ne pas simplement utiliser un des nombreux serveur DNS qui fait déjà du blocage ?
Pourquoi? C'est une excellente question. Ma réponse sera tristement décevante j'en ai peur: (après rapide survol de la page donnée en lien) parce que je n'avais pas la moindre idée que cela était possible. Si je n'en suis pas fier, j'assume ma busitude abyssale.
Donc, je vais creuser la question et ta suggestion, merci :)
Also how do we even explain this to normal people who are not extremely online? How can we help neighbors or the elderly recognize when they are being nudged by an algorithm or seeing a digital caricature?
As an almost 'elder' myself (soon to reach 60) I can tell you age is not the issue. A lot of you, younger people, seem as blind to the threat(s) as we older people seem to be, maybe worse since you're living 24/24 through those tech... and are still willing to use them, even insisting on not using anything but those big tech, and certainly not considering using no tech at all. See how easy it is to conlucde things out of meaningless examples?
So, imvho, a good beginning step before trying to explain anything to anyone would be to not focus on any demographic as a 'weaker' one and instead try to consider why so many different types of persons fall to the same trap. Don't you think?
If it’s not age (or genre or race), what could explain so many of us fall for big tech? Hint: it probably has a lot to do with human psychology, more than age.
Has anyone here successfully implemented local first solutions that reduced their reliance on big tech ai?
I don't rely on AI, at all. Big tech or no. As far as I'm concerned, problem solved.Edit: I should made it clear I'm half joking here: I really don't rely on AI, but I'm also aware my personal choice doesn't solve anything.
I am looking for ways to foster cognitive immunity
I don't know about immunity, but the way to avoid falling for most scam and lies... used to be common knowledge: cross-referencing one’s sources (of news, or whatever else), and never trust any single source.
It works against scam (don't blindly follow a link that tells you there is an issue with this or that, double-check whatever unexpected event they want you to react upon, using a different source). It works as well against most manipulations, lies and almost anything else.
How to use that against the social media's tsunami of fake news and emotional turds that users are faced with?
Well, my solution was to quit using those shit services. For anyone less radical than I, when faced with what apparently looks like many different 'sources' (those people we follow) retweeting the same emotional turd or the same lie, one solution is to learn to consider all those people we follow (including friends) as merely avatars of the same (and unique) algorithm that feeds them the same shit in order to make them react in a certain predictable way. The issue? It takes some efforts, sometimes a lot. And it is not ‘friendly’. Too bad, I don’t feel any desire to become friendly with an algorithm, even when that usurps the appearance of a friend.
If we want to protect ourselves and our local communities from being manipulated by these black box models how do we actually do it?
We teach people that communities used to exist offline and have been existing for many thousand of years without relying on any app, any AI, any algorithm, without any Like, Subscribe or Upvote, without any tech… beside the shared ability and desire to talk with one another. Without anything but the willingness to meet and to work together.
I know it sounds silly and quite impractical considering people can instantly chat across the entire planet but, and even more so in that post-democratic and post-freedom societies we Westerners now live in, offline communities should once again become a realistic option, if not our main focus. Big corps/govs can't as easily track us in the privacy of our homes as long as we... don't use tech to communicate between one another..
Encouraging people (of all ages) to even consider not using their stupid phone and some stupid app to share some stupid content (I may be slightly trolling here), is the real issue, here. People are lazy as fuck. We are. They want immediate gratification (validation). We all want. And it will take a lot of work and (re)education to change that.
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J'ai jamais utilisé de pihole, j'ai même jamais utilisé un NAS... et j'ai toujours trouvé toutes les technos relatives aux 'réseaux' particulièrement confuses et peu... amicales envers le débutant (sauf une seule... 'Bonjour', de Apple même moi j'arrivais à comprendre, c'est dire). Ca, c'est pour le contexte et pour planter mes sévères limites intellectuelles dans le domaine : je suis une buse.
Magré ça, je m'interroge sur l'opportunité d'utiliser un pihole en aval de ma box internet (fibre Bouygues), qui resterait donc active comme serveur DHCP/point d'accès au Web, histoire de pouvoir complètement bloquer les pubs et autres nuisibles.
- Est-ce possible/facile d'avoir les appareils chez nous qui se connecteraient au pihole et ensuite le pihole dirigerait tout ça vers la box et le Web?
- Est-ce que le pihole a besoin de 2 ports Ethernet (un pour se connecter à la box et un autre pour recevoir les connexions des ordinateurs de notre réseau, en plus du WiFi pour les appareils mobiles)?
It's a strategic move: we cave here while at the same time gathering all our strength to oppose US taking over Greenland, that's the reason why. /s
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How would you do it?
Infinite resources?
Knowing how people work, I would give one free Btc to anyone that can spend the whole 24h worth of that day without criticizing anyone or anything, without hating on anybody, without moaning about anything, and that can find a few meaningful ways to be nice with everybody including, especially, those people they like to complain about and those that they don't like. Excluded from the reward: people that would sleep all day or that would spend the day away from anybody ;)
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I never listen to my voicemail, so I never bothered recording anything.
Catho ou pas, j'aime bien cette démarche de regarder autour de nous et de tenter nous remémorer que nous ne sommes pas qu'un produit venu d'ailleurs. Aujourd'hui, peut-être plus que jamais.
Ca manque quand même d'info sur la manière dont ces fèves locales ont été fabriquées, dommage.
+1 to the initiative.
"Les oiseaux", de Hitchcock (toujours aussi bon). D'après "Les oiseaux", une nouvelle de Daphné du Maurier English PDF.
Un Ghibli, j'ai presque envie de dire peu importe lequel car, à mon pas si humble avis, il n'y en a pas un qui ne mérite pas d'être (re,re,re(, re))vu.
The Plague. Une des pires adaptations de Stephen King jamais créée (c'est dire à quel point ça m'a vraiment paru très mauvais)? et pourtant ce raconteur de génie qu'est King semble avoir coécrit l’adaptation TV de cette mini-série de 4 épisodes qui réussi l'exploit de démontrer, sans la moindre pitié, séquence après séquence, épisode après épisode, tout ce qu'il ne fait pas faire pour intéresser le public, écrire un scénario (basé sur une super histoire... de King) et comment ne pas faire un bon film, tout ça et plus.Dommage, car à côté d'un King que j'ai toujours admiré comme auteur, il y avait aussi une poignée d'acteurs qui ne demandaient qu'à montrer le meilleur d'eux-même et qui, sans surprise, ne le font pas, bien au contraire. Autre contrariété, la façon dont les personnages ont été modifiés et simplifiés pour la tv. Je ne peux pas dire ‘caricaturés’ car ça laisserait planer l’espoir, ô combien trompeur, que ce soit amusant... ici c'est au mieux ridicule.Bref, un très bon bouquin pour qui apprécie le genre, et une expérience... unique, pour le dire poliment, dans cette adaptation. PS: si vous n'avez vu que la série et jamais lu le roman, rendez-vous service: achetez/empruntez le roman. C'est un pavé... qui se lit sans effort et avec sensiblement plus d'intérêt que ce navet tiré en longueur ;)
I have not read the list but note that boredom can be an amazingly efficient help to refocus on what (should) matter.
Beside that, I quite like your 4 points summary of it ;)
If only we had such a watchful mom right now IRL. Something tells me she would quickly become exhausted by the task at hand.