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KaKi87

@ KaKi87 @jlai.lu

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🇬🇧 | 24yo French web dev & tech enthusiast

🇫🇷 | Développeur web Limougeaud de 24 ans passionné par l'informatique

Main fediverse account (Mastodon) : mamot.fr/@KaKi87

Blog (Lemmy) : blog.kaki87.net

Formerly @KaKi87@sh.itjust.works, moved because of Cloudflare.

  • KDE neon 6 : "Up to date" vs "install all available updates [...] before upgrading"

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  • Yes it really still isn't, that's the thing. And it's been a while already, so I suspect I'll be waiting a while longer.

  • KDE neon 6 : "Up to date" vs "install all available updates [...] before upgrading"

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  • don't hold packages, of course that always leads to problems.

    That's what saves me from a problem, in this case.

  • KDE neon 6 : "Up to date" vs "install all available updates [...] before upgrading"

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  • Both Discover and nala are wrappers for apt, so it really wouldn't change anything.

  • KDE neon 6 : "Up to date" vs "install all available updates [...] before upgrading"

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  • Hello ?

  • KDE neon 6 : "Up to date" vs "install all available updates [...] before upgrading"

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  • It's done and didn't change anything, but I think I finally know why : running apt list --upgradable reveals the one outdated package is xdg-desktop-portal, which I used apt-mark hold on because of an issue preventing screen capture/sharing from working that affects even the latest version.

    What to do ?

    Thanks

  • [Meta] 🎶 Un jour mon prince viendra 🎶 Edit: il est arrivé!

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  • On attend le post maintenant xD

  • I made a local APT repository that automatically fetches DEBs and AppImages from anywhere

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  • Willing to give this a go.

    Alright, don't hesitate to ask questions if you have any and request help if you need any

    My go-to for getting non-repo debs automatically has been deb-get

    Yes, I mentioned it in the Differences with deb-get & AM section of my tutorial.

    it seems to go long periods of time between PR merges and releases (which includes adding new software)

    Yeah, I could reiterate in that section that my app allows the user to add apps themselves.

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  • I didn’t say it was more secure, I said it’s about the same.

    You said automation breeds laziness (by design, to an extent) and lazy end users tend to shoot themselves in the foot.

    So, my question is : what part of automating download of DEBs from a specific source can be shooting oneself in the foot compared to doing the same thing manually every time ?

    you should legally protect yourself

    The MIT license will take care of that.

    Also, to force the user to accept and acknowledge that the software they are installing using this tool is not verified to be safe is inducing fear and/or guilt, therefore is bad UX, I'm not doing that.

  • I made a local APT repository that automatically fetches DEBs and AppImages from anywhere

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  • It's more functional than object-oriented and I read the former better than the latter. 😅

  • I made a local APT repository that automatically fetches DEBs and AppImages from anywhere

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  • You understand perfectly.

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  • How is the manual step more secure though ?

    What does the user do before downloading a DEB that makes that gap between manual and automated ?

    I'd be willing to try and reproduce that, but I don't see anything.

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  • It doesn't, that's provided by Cortile.

  • I made a local APT repository that automatically fetches DEBs and AppImages from anywhere

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  • My point is that I'm working a solution for end users.

    The solutions you're offering are not user-friendly.

  • I made a local APT repository that automatically fetches DEBs and AppImages from anywhere

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  • I don't care.

  • I made a local APT repository that automatically fetches DEBs and AppImages from anywhere

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  • I'm and end user working for end users.

  • I made a local APT repository that automatically fetches DEBs and AppImages from anywhere

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  • My main use case is end user desktops.

  • I made a local APT repository that automatically fetches DEBs and AppImages from anywhere

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  • Which isn't user-friendly.

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  • Well, I'm just automating what people currently have to do manually : visit GitHub and download DEB and install DEB.

    If the automated process would be dangerous then the manual process also would be, and that would be on the maintainer for not providing an APT repository or a Flatpak, not on the user for just downloading from GitHub.

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  • Why the OOP structure and syntax ? Sorry but it makes it difficult to read for me even in my own language 😅