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  • When we see any evidence that conciseness can even exist at the speed of light. Then the potential of someone's cells may be argued to outweigh the current desires of a living, independent being.

    Until time travel, you are likely to continue to fail to change the law to consider a collection of cells an independent life form before 24 weeks. The rights of the mother, it requires living, currently outweigh those of something unable to survive alone.

    Just like my need for a new kidney in no way gives me or the law the right to force you to donate yours against your will.

    As for it looking like a human. So does any ape fetus at that time. It has little to do with its total development. Just like when you build the frame of a boat that frame looks boat like. Because all the bits that require a boat to float and run require a frame to be placed in.

    Its shape is ion no way a valid argument for its completeness. This is science and law, not art.

    More specifically, this is law. And ever since, the ban on abortion was lost. (due to the real death of living humans able to make choices). People of your (no more than religiously defined) opinion have been fighting to change the law. You have failed.

    And while you have the right to protest that and feel this way. As I said right at the beginning. You do not have the right to intimidate others following the law rather than protest at parliament to change it.

    The value of the law. And your non-scientific definitions of when a human is indeed human. Have no actual relation to the topic of this thread. The history of intimidation of people following the law who do not agree with your views is all that dose.

    And if you think they can change people's mind on those actions by quoting your unfounded ideas.

    Honestly, you're as daft as I am thinking my opinions matter to you. But when you call them scientific. Go fuck off, you are at best uninformed of what the word means and how the scientific process works. And more likely miss informed about the difference between individual facts and proof of a hypothesis being evaluated, challenged and accepted as a theory.

  • Nor are cells in a womb. Sorta the point,

  • Cells react to things. Dose not mean it is an independent console being.

    If you can proove your cancer moles meet the same standards. Would you still agree with removal.

  • In old UK English surgery had 2 meanings.

    The common medical one. And a general alteration.

    This means MPs and parliment have applied the term to the time our representatives spend gaining input from voters in theiir constituancy. As before commons became powerful it was more a lords of the manner position.

    At the time when the position was more royal. IE lords and land owners. It allowed the lords to hear requests for alterations on how they managed the constituancy.

    Now its more about a meeting where MPs hear from indevidual voters about issues they can help with.

  • Cool. Your welcome to feel that way.

    But when you intimidate people who disagree with your flawed non scientific ideal of the start of life.

    You face restrictions on you right to gather near them.

  • I will add as a narrowboater.

    I found towpaths also have this issue with definition of surface.

    I am legally blind. (Some vision but bad)

    I have a few times tried to add more ditail to areas of towpath that will help the others like me know what to expect before mooring.

    Seems anything that improves this will help in your issues as well.

  • In no way related to this thread.

  • As opposed to controlling a mammals desire to breed?

    It not like either solution is easier.

  • My point was more about your attitude towards parental leave.

    But it is not actually a dact thar trhe earth is over populated. How we live is more an issue then the numbers.

    Any science on the autual numbers earth can support leaves us with a few bln to go.

    But that science doselt allow for capatalism.

  • This. It is like any tool. It is down to the skill/knowlege/experience of the user to evaluate the result.

    But as soon as management/government start seeing it as a cheat to reduce hiring. It become a danger.

  • Won't make you feel any better.

    But lasers on a drone as a weapon is not yet very practice. Drone would need to be huge. And bullets are just better for the weight.

    Atm, closest we are likely to get is blue whales with lasers on the head.

  • kissing the corporate boot

    See that's where you are going wrong. Who the hell wants their BOOTs kissed.

    Learn from generations of Britt's. Tug your forelocks and get the lords to bend over and spread.

  • Your logic is flawed. Even if we reduced births to 10% of current rates. Those children would need more parental support for longer. As that generation would be more dependent on parental and family bonding due to lack of a same aged community to learn and grow with.

    We are a species evolved to have very, very dependent young, rather than most other mammals. This presented up with advantages in the predator / prey fight that is evolution. But it also left our young depended on tribal societies to survive.

    Parental leave is just the modern capitalistic equivalent of the tribe coming together to raise its young. It is the recent historic lack of it in many societies and post-industrial revolution that is odd. Not the return.

    You as a non parent will eventually need these children to learn to manage the society you live in. Just because you choose to be child free yourself. Does not mean you will not depend on them as adults as you age. As you age you will need educated doctors nurses and Bin men to ensure your life is liveable. Those adults are the very children you think are not your responsibility now.

    But unless you are a hermit living entirely on the milk of your own land. (if so you are already not funding this).

    Then yes, you and all of us are involved in raising the future population.

  • I am Pretty sure the narcissistic claims about trump are true.

    This means he actually believes his insane lies. He trully thinks anyone who disagreeswith him is wrong. And any success they have is due to corruption not valid arguments.

    IE he is a fucking nutt case.

  • My first thought.

    But u assume it dosent includw land or actual trains etc. Just laying the line.

    Still seems cheap compared to the UK HS2.

  • Ill add. My now passed grandfather raised me.

    He was a pacifist durimg the second world war. He and many were forced to mine resorces. As they refused to fight. As he was an engineer he was eventually reasigned to other work. Aircraft instrament manufacture at smiths.

    But at no point did he think the UK should just allow germany to take over.

    He just knew he was not able to fight himself. This was a commonf feeling among those conscripted during the second world war. And will always be a risk whe. A mation needs to defend itself from agressors.

    Not all of a nations people are best suited to fight.

  • Given the requests for more military aid comes from people in ukraine.

    Seems. Your the one arguing against them from a position of safty.

  • Wow someone have enouth fuck about the fuck I gove. To write an app to monitor it.

    Pity I dont give enouth fucks to install it.

  • Yeah the change of law is a start.

    But the councils will need money to invest in replacibg lost services.

    Currently the political clkmate limits that.

    IE the gov dose t have the courage to force the inveatment.