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  • Fascists are not empowered by political apathy

    Fascists are empowered by political apathy in a first past the post election system. Which we have.

    And its not just tankies. You guys are an influence but you aren't the sole driver of this result of low turnout obviously.

    This is something many clownishly-apolitical individuals that aren't tankies understand and still choose not to vote because they also, like tankies, think both parties are the same but for more low brow selfish small minded reasons. I live in a deeply rural area and commute to a small city and I've encountered these morons first hand in both places. Typically these are poorly educated impoverished people who feel left behind by perceived elites (not just rich people but basically any people smart enough to work low paying white collar like myself). Who don't realize they're letting things get worse for them and now will end up materially worse off and even some of them will end up dead as a result.

    And in so far that a person can deserve their own misfortune, they will. Because they either know or very much ought to know what was at stake and did not give a fuck.

    I actually think most tankies will be fine though. You guys are educated enough that you're probably not on average nearly as impoverished as these types. It'll just be the dipshit apolitical underclass of people who will start feeling things get noticeably worse.

    Maybe it wont be too late for them to be moved by their impending suffering and react to it in a productive way but at this point I'm kind of over it. I'm ambivalent at this point.

  • Yes AOC, he is. We all know. Some pieces of shit Americans however earnestly did not give a fuck clearly.

    I have nothing to say that's constructive but I also have nothing to do to fill the void.

  • The people who refused to vote also deserve it. That means most of us deserves this.

    I also tried to stop it. I not only voted, I traveled hours to a purple state and canvassed. I donated. I constantly agitated at my workplace at the risk of my job.

  • I know they exist but they're still a minority.

    At least they're probably experiencing a growth spurt though. Little bit of hopium there.

  • I mean, the libs are going into the camp as well. Specifically, the ones that wanted you to vote for them most likely a target. Trump's admin is clearly trying to flex their power, now that they're ignoring the rightwing Supreme Court and completely ignoring due process. Why would they want to continue to tolerate any political threats to their power at all?

    Maybe you'll get to see Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Chuck Schumer, and Bernie Sanders all in the Salvadoran Gulag with you. Maybe you'll even meet me there. We can all go and bitch at each other while the fascists torture us all to death.

  • The ones primarily saying that want to shoot liberals and leftists.

    The few liberals and leftists who are pro-gun probably don't have sufficient support or power to form a militia force. Because most liberals and leftists in the US are anti-gun.

  • Don't be, most of us deserve it.

  • Zionist Democrats want to fine you and repress you in financial ways. They want to "tut tut" you for being anti-Semitic.

    Zionist Republicans want to put you (and immigrants, and LGBT, and dissenters) in a death camp.

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  • As much as I also would like IP law to die, I do not think that these two saying such means much.

    Jack Dorsey is not in government and worth a 100th of what Musk is worth. And Elon Musk is evil and retarded.

  • Typically first dates are not the same place you first meet someone.

    I know, but that there aren't a lot of places to meet people in person without spending a bunch of money is a major problem and meeting people online to date sucks.

  • Not everyone loves meandering around a park or beach. Though I'll admit its good for our brains to do so. It always feels like a chore to me, I get bored.

    Also was it alcoholic cider? That would explain why it was fun.

    Also those places aren't really great for meeting people and even then you don't want to make those locations the only dating locations.

  • The guys saying the top three things aren't necessarily the same as those saying the bottom thing. But there is definitely some overlap. Which is depressing. Though, I mean is that really that surprising given the state of the world and how stupid the average person is?

    The loneliness epidemic also effects women. We're all more lonely and miserable these days. I think really men and women are alienated from each other in large numbers due to internet brain rot. And being too broke to do anything outside except like... go to a public park or a library or something.

    The shitty rightwing politics comes after, the average person is too stupid to not get immediately sucked into manipulative rightwing grift when they're painfully lonely.

    I say this as I consume internet brain rot myself. Though at least its on Lemmy and not Tik Tok, Reddit, or Facebook, and its during work, not my free time.

  • Hey I'll probably be alive in 2050 so I hope so.

  • In order for him to answer your question he'd need you to define more precisely what you are asking so he doesn't argue against a point you aren't making. You seem to refuse that clarification and are just saying hes a bullshitter repeatedly. Which implies you don't actually care if he can provide evidence at all.

    Hes saying he doesn't trust you not to waste his time. Arguing using evidence requires effort that is often wasted on people who don't care about evidence. (Even if they say they do care about evidence)

    Just pointing out I don't have a horse in this race otherwise. I'm not going to make the claim AI can yet solve novel problems. I just despise intellectual dishonesty.

  • I would if I got to join. I've always wanted to do an eiffel tower.

    I'm bi and poly though.

    Though also I'm probably never going to get married.

  • I mean, let them? Who cares?

  • TBH sometimes being on the internet is self harm.

  • Clearly impeaching him again will work this time guys. Just one more time guys, that'll get him! /s

  • And why would you assume there aren’t some pro-Zionist Democrats that voted for Kamala BECAUSE of her stance on Gaza? Every decision a campaign makes both gains and loses them votes.

    Because the propaganda surrounding Zionism and the level of support for Zionism overwhelmingly is on the republican's side. Zionist democrats are primarily in the leadership not voting base. Zionist democrats among the voting base who would legitimately not vote for Harris if she had said she intended to reign in Israel (which she implied non-noncommittally to anyway) is undoubtedly smaller than pro-palestinian activists. Netanyahu is not even a popular leader among Israelis.

    Even if the stance of reigning in Netanyahu was unpopular among Zionist democrats, there wouldn't be nearly the same level of rage and zeal over such a move.

    Now, I would say this was a tactical mistake on the part of democratic leaders in terms of winning, but more than likely their allegiance to Zionism is strong enough that they were clearly willing to increase the risk of losing in order to keep the political discourse more favorable to Israel if possible and did not want to give in rhetorically. And they paid for it. We all are going to pay for it.

    Make no mistake, I fucking hate them for it. But I can be repulsed and disgusted by more than one group of people.

    I think the issue, in terms of its effects on the election, is largely a trivial matter that’s been blown way out of proportion, largely by AIPAC itself. I just don’t think there’s a very large population that cares about Palestinian issues that wouldn’t also vote vote for the optimal outcome for Gaza. Are there some? Sure. But I’m incredibly suspicious of anyone pushing the narrative that this had a substantial effect on the election. We’re talking about people educated enough on world affairs to care passionately about the plight of a small population on the other side of the planet, but also ignorant enough to go and vote for Donald Trump? How many people do you think actually meet both of those qualifications? It’s a tiny rounding error.

    It seems like a disinformation campaign by AIPAC intended to sour the public on the rights of Gazans. The people who care about Gaza are primarily on the left side of the political spectrum. What better way to alienate the American left to the plight of the Gazans than to convince people on the left that the Gaza issue cost Kamala the election? The whole thing absolutely wreaks of an Israeli propaganda campaign.

    If it’s not an AIPAC campaign, it’s largely just a self-serving story on the part of white voters. Trump won because white people voted overwhelmingly in favor of him. Even the concentration of Muslims in Michigan is completely irrelevant, as Trump would have won without winning Michigan. If it’s not an Israeli intelligence operation, blaming Kamala’s loss on Palestinians is ultimately just subtly veiled racism.

    The numbers bear this out. Muslim voters voted for Kamala 46% to 43%. White voters voted for Trump 56% to 40%. Muslims voted for Harris at far higher rates than white people did.

    Blaming Arabs and Muslims for Harris’s loss is just a way of scapegoating a racial and religious minority group. Trump won because white people overwhelmingly voted for him. Everything else is a rounding error. It’s just plain old racism, nothing more.

    You are making the grave mistake of overestimating people with in-group thinking. Most people who are voting around hot button issues like this are not deeply educated and even so being educated on world affairs doesn't prevent irrational and emotional decision making.

    That said, I wasn't blaming Arabs and Muslims in my post maybe you should reread it.

    I'm talking about the net effect of discouraging or demotivating non-arab & non-muslim democratic voters with "A vote for Harris is a vote for genocide" I've seen this type of propaganda first hand in real life.

    Guilt is a strong (de)motivator. Just as much as outrage (maybe more so). Palestinian activists utilized both to largely harm Harris's campaign.

    Its not racism because I'm not directing my blame at a racial group. I'm directing my ire at dipshit white people who watch too much Tik Tok and decided not to vote because they did not want to "be complicit in genocide". Just as much as dipshit Arab and Muslims who thought that it earnestly did not matter for Palestine who won. Or the portion that thought Trump might legitimately be better for Palestine. Even if most Arabs & Muslims who voted did in fact mostly vote Harris basically every minority group including them shifted towards Trump in 2024 compared to previous elections.

    And make no mistake, I'm well aware that most white people voted Trump. My antipathy towards them is much much stronger, but I don't want to yell at them and call them stupid. I've said on this very platform that if Canada (or Mexico) and the US legitimately had some kind of war and I had to pick I'd fight on the Mexico/Canada side and probably seek out MAGA homes and do some very not good things to those people. Maybe things international organizations would view... poorly. Most MAGA are white.

    I just also feel zero motivation to assist people who helped the fascists win. Even if the blame on them is only partial. I wouldn't commit violence against them but I'm not lifting a fucking finger for them either. They made their fucking bed.

    Same with the non-voter people who suddenly realized its bad for them personally that Trump won. Whether they're moderate Republicans, Centrists, "apolitical", or anti-electorialist labor.

    There are very few good people left by my count after this election.