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  • Source? Because the articles I can find such as this one from Reuters say very much the opposite: "Although Israeli officials have given no details, according to calculations by a number of analysts, the price of Iran's attack probably amounted to $80 million to $100 million — but cost Israel and its allies around $1 billion to repel."

    Here's another analysis: "Experts have calculated the cost of the April 13 attack for Iran at $100-$200 million — perhaps five to ten times less than what Israel spent to repel it. That means a huge recurring bill if Iran were to keep attacking." They go through the math of it and cite specific weapon systems costs.

    I'll wait to see if you can back up your assertion, but I'm quite skeptical at time of writing.

  • I'd be careful about considering Israel's defense as a complete success, or at least an easy one. According to Israeli sources cited in this article, achieving that result cost Israel as much as $1-1.3 billion USD, and I can't find out if that includes the price of interception by other countries - a lot of the heavy lifting was done by the USA after all. Given that they say that's the cost for Israel specifically, I don't think it does but I can't find sources. Regardless, it's a big bill for an attack that everyone knew was coming days in advance and gives a sense of the economics involved in an open war several times more intense.

  • Oh FFS. This had better be an extremely limited response to Iran's response to Israel's bombing of an embassy. Here's hoping it's just the same type of symbolic attack that Iran made last weekend - all show and no intent. Just Israel refusing to let anyone else have the last word.

    Anything more serious and things are about to become very messy and even more expensive. Although it would explain why Israel is suddenly arranging to get dozens of jets from the US in the last month or so. Lord knows they don't seem necessary if the only goal is to keep blowing up Palestinians.

  • Sorry this is a long one, but it's packed with lots of info about Israeli treatment of prisoners. Tried to keep each point brief.

    It's not a recent development. Here's a trailer for a 2014 ABC News Australia documentary called Stone Cold Justice - the TL:DR is that for decades IDF have taken and tortured Palestinian youths, coercing them into signing confessions so they can be convicted in court. Here's the full "Stone Cold Justice: Israel’s torture of Palestinian children" documentary if anyone wishes to watch it.

    Josh Paul resigned from a position as a director for the US State Department after war came to Gaza because of his ethics. Here he's talking about an investigation he directed of the rape of a 13-year-old boy in an Israeli prison as requested by Defense for Children International - Palestine. His department found the allegations to be credible, and when they asked the Israeli government for explanation the IDF raided the DCIP the next day and declared them a terrorist organization (a move condemned by multiple human rights groups, the UN, and 9 EU nations).

    Here's an article about Israel's policy of "administrative detention" by which large numbers of Palestinians are held without trial or even charges for an AVERAGE of a year. "Before October 7, the number of Palestinians held by Israel under administrative detention was already at a 20-year high. According to the Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem, there were 1,310 Palestinians imprisoned without charge or trial at the end of September, including at least 146 minors. Since then, Israel has dramatically increased its use of administrative detention, pushing the number of detainees to over 2,000 within the first four weeks of the war. (That’s out of a total of roughly 7,000 Palestinian prisoners.)" It's just taking hostages with a less offensive name.

    Yesterday Israeli national security minister Ben Gvir made a social media post with a last line that translates to: "The death penalty for terrorists is the right solution to the incarceration problem, until then - glad that the government approved the proposal I brought." The incarceration problem he's referring to is a lack of space to hold all the prisoners/hostages Israel is taking, and he's advocating for executions until more prison cells are built.

  • It's one of my favorite dog pictures ever :)

  • You're probably right :) I have this compulsion where I always want to know WHY something is wrong, so when I hear something like this I run off to look it up.

  • Only if time travel is somehow involved. Here's a National Library of Medicine article/book review on the history of HIV/AIDS.

    "The earliest identified isolate of HIV-1 comes from an unknown male in Kinshasa, Congo, in 1959. The first identified patient with HIV infection and AIDS was a Scandinavian man in the 1960s, who had visited west-central Africa. Then came sporadic cases among gay men in the United States and among Haitians in the 1970s, leading to the global explosion in the '80s and '90s and the literal decimation of peoples in several tropical countries."

    I'd say don't source the history of diseases from NFL players, but those who would take my advice seriously probably don't need it.

  • Thank you for the heads up - that's sound advice and a good reminder. To me it is just a meme because I regularly take social media breaks and use other mental hygiene practices like not internalizing (making personally important) all bad news. But it never hurts to get education out there about being happy.

  • Edit: Holy crap, I need to confess I misread your post and replied as if you were making a completely different point. That is my mistake, full stop, and after re-reading your reply I can only assume I likely confused you and others.

    Any extreme is bad, that's true. But there's a lot of room in between current affairs and the situation you're describing I should have read that more carefully. Many of the happiest, healthiest nations on Earth (prime example being Nordic nations) have a model featuring government intervention in the economy and strong social nets while still being capitalist.

  • One more for the moon road then:

  • Birds of a sexual-assaulting feather flock together.

  • I'll stop now.

  • Exactly, or put it in a fund collecting even low-level interest and give that many a raise of 50 grand/year for 20 years.

  • This news is frustrating:

    • I am put off by the judge ruling against it because "it's unfair to shareholders". It's unfair to a lot of people, especially in the wake of layoffs. If the law does not protect the basic necessities for working Americans, then the law needs changing.
    • How many of Elon's workers could get paid a living wage for that $56bn? If he passed it up could he stop trying to oppose unions and make some life-changing concessions for his employees?
    • Even putting that aside, how is that money going to change Elon's life? As in the daily experience of what he eats, vacation opportunities, housing, etc? Because money is kind of like water - it's incredibly important if you don't have enough, but once you have more than you could use the only reason to keep hoarding it is restricting others' access for pride, greed, or leverage (i.e. purchasing influence).

    I'm not even as far left of center as I probably sound. I believe that different economic classes should exist or people aren't motivated - you need to pay surgeons well in order to get enough surgeons. However, "the floor" should be raised to ensure housing/food/utilities security at the cost of "the ceiling" being lowered (or existing at all). Oxfam says a wealth tax of 5% on multi-millionaires/billionaires would solve world hunger in 10 years, lift 2 billion out of poverty, and much more. As of 2023 the bottom half of the USA, as in about 170ish million citizens, only have access to 3% of America's wealth while the top 10% control just over 66% of wealth. Deals like this, coupled with the mass layoffs across multiple industries, is only making that obscene inequality worse.

  • Happens to the best of us mate, and many don't admit it. I can respect an honest "I made a mistake" because it makes me feel better about admitting it when I inevitably do the same.

  • Here Whiskeyjack is being used to improve a picture with cute points and not sure how he feels about it: