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  • Why do some people defend the billionaires and capitalism?

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  • How about celebrities and not shitty CEOs. I’m generalizing towards multimillionaires as well as there aren’t that many billionaires. Unless the hate is specifically towards billionaires which I don’t think is the case.

    I just took what you put out there. Generally, I'm skeptical that celebrities will really withstand scrutiny, since they tend to be supported by production crew and lesser-paid artists (whether in music or movies) who get regularly screwed over. Perhaps you can make an okay argument with athletes despite them also being held up by the pipeline from the notoriously exploitative college sports industry, playing in stadiums that are mostly damaging to the city, doing merchandising produced from sweatshops, etc.

    But I don't really care about those arguments. The reason I don't care is that the conversation is based on an obscurantist metric, that being income. Any decent anti-capitalist is not mainly concerned with how much money someone gets or has, but their relationship to the means of production. That is, they are concerned with whether this person subsists by owning or subsists by working. You displayed what I would consider a good intuition by shifting from CEOs (who generally subsist by owning) to celebrities (who at least kind of subsist by working). It seems somewhat plausible to me that there would be very wealthy athletes, say, in a socialist state, because their job requires a lot of work and, at the top levels, having the talent to accomplish what they can accomplish is rare!

    However, i would put money on the off chance that there is at least one billionaire who wasn’t shady about their wealth accumulation

    If a machine produces a thousand cubes but also produces at least one octahedron, what would you describe the function of the machine as being?

    think Steve Jobs.

    When I think of Steve Jobs, I think of someone who put a lot of money and dedication into PR.

    As a starting point if you believe that, here's an article that lightly goes over some of his controversies (ignore points 4 and 10). And here's one that I think is somewhat more interesting that incidentally demonstrates how dependent he was on exploitation of the third world.

    Unless you consider holding companies to be shady.

    Owning a company is just a legal status, it's what you do with it that matters. If what you do with it just happens to be amassing more wealth than many, many people could obtain in a lifetime of labor, you probably didn't get there with clean hands.

  • Why do some people defend the billionaires and capitalism?

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  • Can you name a billionaire who doesn't match that description?

  • Why do some people defend the billionaires and capitalism?

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  • Under censorship you’ll not create . . . good meals

    Are you saying that the Soviets censored recipes?

  • Why do some people defend the billionaires and capitalism?

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  • Usually it's my friend Cowbee here who tells people to read things, but here I will:

    https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

    "Brainwashing" is a reactionary myth (that originally comes from orientalist stories of Chinese hypnosis that were used to explain-away defectors in the Korean war) that is used to position the believer in a position superior to the masses ("sheeple"), and which only knows how to treat the latter condescendingly as blind followers of this or that, which is not how you do mass organizing if you want to succeed.

  • Why do some people defend the billionaires and capitalism?

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  • It's not because they think they can be billionaires, it's because they've been taught (and in a minority of cases this is true) that they are better off going after the crumbs that billionaires leave them than trying some other system.

  • Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'

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  • What does this even mean? What victims? Clearly you don't mean the victims of harassment campaigns.

  • Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'

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  • The monetization director should never say anything ever and should be beaten with a stick if he tries, but the standpoint the article is writing from is clear:

    the unveiling of Assassin's Creed Shadows, which quickly gained controversy for numerous allegations that Ubisoft was mispresenting Japanese heritage through unpopular artistic design choices.

    "unpopular artistic design choice", hm? What does that mean?

    Neither the author's writing nor the quote from the director actually name it specifically, but we can infer that it's probably talking about Yasuke, which means that unfortunately this ghoul director is probably completely right and this author is no better than a concern troll.

  • Terrorism from Zionist air force continues with bombing on the outskirts of Beirut

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  • That last part, “… like you always do …” Is not a normal US speech pattern.

    What the hell are you talking about? Of course it is. It's not just a valid construction, it's idiomatic!

    Yet your uname is Southern Boy.

    The Geography Understander has logged on. There are souths other than the Southern US.

    It's pathetic how you immediately jump to trying to insinuate that the other user is a foreigner pretending to be American so they can do dezinformatsiya when it is neither clear where they come from nor where they claim to come from.

    but when you start talking Zionism, it gets close to antisemitism

    Conflating anti-zionism and antisemitism is antisemitism, straight up, and it's a form that zionists love using to silence opposition. Israel should not exist, and there is nothing antisemitic about that statement.

  • Labour Uses Fake Figure Cooked Up by Industry to Oppose Water Nationalisation

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  • Fair enough!

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    Thoughts on the VP Debate

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  • The conditional is right there

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    Thoughts on the VP Debate

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  • I'm sure Vance was lying, but if these were anything like the Presidential debates, there would definitely be a strong Democrat bias. You can't possibly think that Walz didn't get fact checked because he was a perfect little angel with flawlessly honest rhetoric, right?

    Disclaimer: I didn't watch very much of the debate because, as others said, it was boring, but Harris sure as shit lied in her debate.

  • Labour Uses Fake Figure Cooked Up by Industry to Oppose Water Nationalisation

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  • what’s opposing nationalisation and public ownership is and always has been purely ideological

    It's private interests seeking to maintain their own profits. The ideology is downstream of that.

  • CNN says Mossad headquarters in 'densely populated' area, raising eyebrows on social media

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  • I hope so

  • “You will be more conservative as you grow older”

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  • I was lazy picking Wikipedia when everyone knows it's got an American brainrot problem. That's entirely my fault.

    It is true that "conservative opposition to liberalism" is a thing that has exist and currently exists, but the issue is that "conservative" is a relative term, it refers not to an absolute ideological tendency (like liberalism does) but to the necessarily relative value of seeking to conserve the current order of things. This is relative because the order of things can be different, and that changes the question of if you want to conserve it (conservative), go back to some past state, real or imagined (reactionary), or advance to some future state of greater development (progressive).

    So when liberal revolutionaries set the west on fire, conservatives were in conflict with them because the conservatives were trying to preserve the feudal/aristocratic/monarchic order that the liberals opposed. Now that the liberals in the west are no longer revolutionaries but overwhelmingly the establishment and without any serious contest, the acting of promoting liberalism over other ideologies is conservative and the old position of promoting a feudal/aristocratic/monarchic order is reactionary. The rise of neoliberalism, in particular, represents the overwhelming historical victory of liberalism over both reactionary and progressive forces ("There is no alternative," the perfect conservative slogan).

    Of course, a political ideology can be a mix of conservative and reactionary or conservative and progressive (I'll let you decide on reactionary/progressive), and I'd say that former pair is pretty important for understanding the ideology of the Republicans, but don't let that exaggerate in your mind the piddling degree to which the latter pair applies to Democrats.

    Is that a better explanation? Whether this is how you personally want to use the words or not, this will help you understand how socialists use them.

  • CNN says Mossad headquarters in 'densely populated' area, raising eyebrows on social media

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  • There are certainly criticisms to be made of it, but characterizing them as "the bad guys" in a conflict with Israel because they do [thing Israel has been known for for decades] is either sarcasm or rank stupidity

  • I can't be the first to post this lmao

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  • Generally, the people posting this sort of thing also support land back or some variant of it, and will be on the side of the indigenous population in any dispute with western colonizers.

  • CNN says Mossad headquarters in 'densely populated' area, raising eyebrows on social media

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  • You could be clearer next time by adding an /s

  • Israel launches ground offensive into southern Lebanon

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  • It self-consciously is the reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLNCcLfIkM

    Israel only has lobbying groups that are allowed to operate in American politics because the US was already dedicated to zionism. Otherwise there'd be, like, a Chinese AIPAC lobbying for the PRC or something.

  • Israel launches ground offensive into southern Lebanon

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  • States aren't people, dog

  • Israel launches ground offensive into southern Lebanon

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  • I think Bibi was technically born in Israel and spent his early childhood there but lived in Philidelphia during the period that he went to high school.