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Encrypt-Keeper

@ EncryptKeeper @lemmy.world

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  • Better URL, sensationalist post that doesn’t mean a whole lot

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  • People are usually aware enough to know that seeing Unicode characters in a URL looks wrong even if they don’t know why. Pair that with Punycode’s reputation for being abused by malicious actors and some clients not even showing the Unicode, and you have a link few are going to want to click on.

    It’s not that I don’t understand what you’re saying I was just commenting on the fact that nobody is going to want to click that link.

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  • Yes lol. Nobody is going to want to open that link.

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  • No chance anyone’s clicking on that link

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  • As far as I know they have not handed over any emails.

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  • You’re right that they can see the emails in transit if you’re not using encryption, but they never said they can’t. They are as secure as they can possibly be, and are honest about what’s secure and what’s not. I would leave Protonmail at the first sniff of trouble but I just haven’t seen anything that concerning.

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  • I mean we know from documented events that Proton doesn’t store you emails in plain text because there have been Swiss orders to turn over information which they have to comply with and they’ve never turned in emails, because they can’t.

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  • They support IMAP. Which means, IMAP client can read your mails from the server.

    Proton mail does not support IMAP. Because your emails are encrypted on the server.

    Again, unless you add a layer of encryption (assuming the recipient understands it, too), it's plaintext. On the servers.

    Protonmail doesn’t claim that non-protonmail email is end to end encrypted. Any emails sent to a regular email without third party encryption will be plain text through the SMTP server, but they don’t store it. So in this case they are still not storing your emails in plaintext. Your recipient will, but that’s out of Protonmail’s control.

    shows up in full plaintext on their SMTP server. Whatever they do after that (and we've established it's not client-controlled encryption), they have access to it.

    You’ve not established that at all. Protonmail stores that message with client side encryption and they have no access to it. Nothing you’ve brought up here suggests that anything is stored in plaintext on Protonmail servers.

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  • There is no way to retrieve your mail using IMAP on a regular client if they're encrypted on the server.

    That is probably why you can’t retrieve your emails using IMAP from a regular client.

    And Gmail can retrieve your mails from proton using IMAP. It's even in their own (proton's) documentation.

    I don’t think it can. Where in the documentation did you find that?

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  • Ok yeah thats a far cry from Proton actually “Having your unencrypted emails on their servers” as if they’re not encrypted at rest.

    There’s the standard layer of trust you need to have in a third party when you’re not self hosting. Proton has proven so far that they do in fact encrypt your emails and haven’t given any up to authorities when ordered to so I’m not sure where the issue is. I thought they were caught not encrypting them or something.

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  • How have they enshittified? I haven’t noticed anything about their service get worse since they started.

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  • they obviously had to have them in plaintext on their server, even if only for compatibility with current standards

    I don’t think that’s obvious at all. On the contrary, that’s a pretty bold claim to make, do you have any evidence that they’re doing this?

  • Proton releases a new app for two-factor authentication

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  • Yes it’s just you. They released a 2FA app because it complements their existing password manager and because Google has one. Since Proton is positioned as a privacy-first alternative to Google, it makes sense they’d launch competing versions of any given app or program Google does. A 2FA app also wouldn’t capture any kind of personal data.

    What could they do better than Aegis, which is already FOSS and privacy preserving?

    Have an iOS app for one.

    But also like what could they do better than Tutanota mail, Which is already privacy preserving? By your logic Proton shouldn’t exist at all. Is it your opinion that non-privacy respecting software should have lots of competition and options but privacy respecting ones should not? Can’t say I agree with that.

  • Proton releases a new app for two-factor authentication

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  • I don’t think there’s any evidence he’s a crazy racist that we know of.

  • Proton releases a new app for two-factor authentication

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  • 2FAS on iOS is nice

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  • It’s legit. The negative comments are because the CEO supports US Republican politicians which is a red flag, but there haven’t been any operational reasons to not trust them that I’m aware of.

  • White House unveils sweeping plan to “win” global AI race through deregulation

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  • Post Bush. The Obama administration.

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  • [VIDEO] Japan Sanctions Visa after the Censorship of Anime and Manga

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  • How is Japan anti-censorship? What a time to be alive