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    This was another very difficult question I had to ask my interview subjects, especially the leftists from Southeast Asia and Latin America. When we would get to discussing the old debates between peaceful and armed revolution; between hardline Marxism and democratic socialism, I would ask: Who was right?

    In Guatemala, was it Arbenz or Che who had the right approach? Or in Indonesia, when Mao warned Aidit that the PKI should arm themselves, and they did not? In Chile, was it the young revolutionaries in the MIR who were right in those college debates, or the more disciplined, moderate Chilean Communist Party?

    Most of the people I spoke with who were politically involved back then believed fervently in a nonviolent approach, in gradual, peaceful, democratic change. They often had no love for the systems set up by people like Mao. But they knew that their side had lost the debate, because so many of their friends were dead. They often admitted, without hesitation or pleasure, that the hardliners had been right. Aidit's unarmed party didn't survive. Allende's democratic socialism was not allowed, regardless of the d'etente between the Soviets and Washington.

    Looking at it this way, the major losers of the twentieth century were those who believed too sincerely in the existence of a liberal international order, those who trusted too much in democracy, or too much in what the United States said it supported, rather than what it really supported -- what the rich countries said, rather than what they did.

    That group was annihilated.

    • Vincent Bevins, The Jakarta Method
  • I support Labour Colonies.

    That makes me LibLeft

  • The problem here is your understanding of socialism. European countries such as Denmark, Sweden, and Norway (etc.) have not had socialism. They have had social democracy, capitalism with social safety nets.

  • Marx was born in 1818. Engels was born in 1820.

  • I just wanted to point out that Cassandra said that Marx was a capitalism lover, not Engels as you replied.

  • Its not Engels that is a capitalism lover (in the eabove comment) its Marx.

  • Because the NYPD works with Israel.

  • If getting banned is violence, then sure.

  • You should just get banned.

  • placing the burden of proof on me

    That's how the burden of proof works. You make a claim, you provide proof.

  • You are lying about your previous lies, and then stating unrelated facts to confuse people.

    I am not.

    “you run the tor binary” doesn’t mean “the app runs the tor binary” it means you, the user on the system

    I never meant that the app has to, the user can too.

    Lemmy doesn’t need Tor built-in to use Tor

    No, but then the individual lemmy instances would have to bodge tor support, as I have been trying to say. And since they very likely don't, tor based federation wouldn't work with those instances.

    their explanation in this comment does match that reality

    It does.

  • I'm not lying. I am stating the facts.

    Tor works for apps that don’t integrate it (or its “binary”)

    You run the tor binary and connect to it over socks5 and make connections to places (onion or not) through that socks5. If the app doesn't support socks5 you need to bodge it and redirect connections from the app into socks5 through some other means.

    (At least that is the old way, with arti things are changing, but it's still in development, and when we are talking about onion services the old tor binary is still necessary)

  • Docs say Tor federation isn’t allowed

    It says it isn't "supported". You are free to change the code to add socks5/tor support or make some bodge where it connects over tor and have your tor only network. Just don't complain when nobody can connect to you.

  • Also, why are you trying to make it sound like this is a universal thing that applies to all apps?

    Because it is. This is how Tor works. Do you not understand how Tor works?

  • You need to connect to the tor binary to make .onions work. It doesn't just work like any other uri.