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  • Baidu CEO warns AI is just an inevitable bubble — 99% of AI companies are at risk of failing when the bubble bursts

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  • Yeah for me it's less that I rage about getting downvoted, its just when I see a massive number of downvotes for posts that are simply pointing to the facts, or being logical and rational...and they get a massive number of downvotes because it contradicts the circlejerk or what people want to be true.

  • Baidu CEO warns AI is just an inevitable bubble — 99% of AI companies are at risk of failing when the bubble bursts

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  • I dont personally care about downvotes, but those data points sure do shake my faith in humanity sometimes.

  • Baidu CEO warns AI is just an inevitable bubble — 99% of AI companies are at risk of failing when the bubble bursts

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  • IMO, one of the best QoL updates for Lemmy is to make the votes invisible.

  • Baidu CEO warns AI is just an inevitable bubble — 99% of AI companies are at risk of failing when the bubble bursts

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  • It's a weird world and cool to think about. Thanks for the civil and interesting discussion.

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  • I’m not the one being an asshole

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  • I'm not saying it's 99.9% of human intelligence, I'm saying you're describing 99.9% of human thought.

    This is what humans do, we hear about something thing and then we learn how to apply it to another. You even mention here "stacking balls" and then making the connection that eggs are also round and would need to be stacked in the same way to prevent rolling. This is reasoning, using what you've learned and applying it to a novel problem.

    What you are describing as novel problems are really just doing the same thing at a completely different level. Like I play soccer, but no matter how much I trained, there is no way I would ever reach Messi's skill, because he was just born with special skill in that area, but still just human like the rest of us.

    And remember I'm mostly just pointing to the "text predictor" claim. I'm not convinced it's not, and I think that appeared true for early models, but not so easy to apply to current models.

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  • If you need to make up what the other person said in order to make your point, and try to maintain it even after they've corrected you, it should lead you to realize how weak your position is.

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  • Nope, but I know I have faith in my position, which you obviously don't have.

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  • thinking I’m in favor of corruption

    Except I don't think that, nor did I say anything that even remotely resembles this.

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  • So what made you think I got you wrong...if you think I was right? This is making less sense as we go.

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  • Nothing in your post indicates that my criticism of your point was wrong.

  • Youth unemployment in China is getting worse

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  • I've got a very good sense of humor, and even with the claim that it was a joke, it still doesn't make sense. Ya just missed.

  • Youth unemployment in China is getting worse

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  • So edgy. And a terrible defense. Truly your opinion comes from a place of critical and intelligent thought.

  • Baidu CEO warns AI is just an inevitable bubble — 99% of AI companies are at risk of failing when the bubble bursts

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  • how could they tell it was truly a new thing

    Sure, there is a chance the exact question had been asked before, and answered, but we are talking remote possibilities here.

    that any description provided for it didn’t map it to another object that would behave similarly when stacking.

    If it has to say 'this item is like that other item and thus I can use what I've learned about stacking that other item to stack this item' then I would absolutely argue that it is reasoning and not just "predicting text" (or, again, predicting text might be the equivalent of reasoning).

    Stacking things isn’t a novel problem.

    Sure, stacking things is not a novel problem, which is why we have the word "stack" because it describes something we do. But stacking that list of things is (almost certainly) a novel problem. It's just you use what you've learned and apply that knowledge to this new problem. A non-novel problem is if I say "2+2 = 4" and then turn around and ask you "what does 2 + 2 equal?" (Assuming you have no data set) If I then ask you "what's 2 + 3?" that is a novel problem, even if it's been answered before.

    I mean, I can’t dismiss that it isn’t doing something more complex, but examples like that don’t convince me that it is. It is capable of very impressive things, and even if it needs to regurgitate every answer it gives, few problems we want to solve day to day are truly novel, so regurgitating previous discussions plus a massive set of associations means that it can map a pretty large problem space to a large solution space with high accuracy.

    How are you convinced that humans are reasoning creatures? This honestly sounds like you could be describing 99.99% of human thought, meaning we almost never reason (if not actually never). Are we even reasonable?

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  • Why would I answer your question when you ignored mine?

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  • Yes, it's obviously capitalism's fault and not the fault of the corrupt leaders in their fascist, totalitarian state.

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  • The US are morally bankrupt and don’t inspire the world anymore.

    Another perfect example of a story about another country, and someone in the Lemmy comments just having to shit on America. It's amazing. Virtually without fail.

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  • You don't think South Korea has far more expertise when it comes to North Korea than Ukraine?

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  • I listened to a podcast (This American Life, IIRC), where some researchers were talking about their efforts to determine whether or not AI could reason. One test they did was asking it to stack a random set of items (one it wouldn't have come across in any data set, plank of wood, 12 eggs, a book, a bottle, and a nail. . .probably some other things too) in a stable way. With chat gpt 3, it basically just (as you would expect from a pure text predictor) said to put one object on top of another, no way would it be stable.

    However, with gpt 4, it basically said to put the wood down, and place the eggs in a 3 x 4 grid with the book on top (to stop them from rolling away), and then with the bottle on top of that, with the nail (even noting you have to put the head side down because you couldn't make it stable with the point down). It was certainly something that could work, and it was a novel solution.

    Now I'm not saying this proves it can think, but I think this "well it's just a text predictor" kind of hand-waves away the question. It also begs the question, and based on how often I hear people parroting the same exact arguments against AI thinking, I wonder how much we are simply just "text predictors."