It was condensing as I am replying to and obviously anti-feminist post with a bunch of passive aggressive misogynists. This is normal as Lemmy is stocked full of insecure men.
I will get absolutely frank. You have some obvious issues with women that have nothing to do with this one group.
There is no restorative justice for someone who raped and murdered thousands of people in their lifetime. It is obvious you are ignorant to what he did. That is okay.
Just because you are enlightened enough to want your abuser to get fixed doesn't mean someone else is. Also, considering we are talking about a historical figure it is kind of silly.
You are not a feminist. Have you studied feminism!? If you had you would recognize several red flags you carry around like a badge of honor. You would also see this cartoon as a mischaracterization and along the lines of micro aggression.
Were you abused by a woman? I could perhaps see where you are coming from if this is the case. Not that you are correct in your thinking, but understandable. The women you described earlier honestly need therapy once they are living in a society that isn't actively abusing them.
I am glad you can recognize this one group were not your abusers. I am also hopeful that you will one day look at this cartoon and say, that is a bunch of bullshit. What the chud is clearly missing is feminism explores a deep dive into oppression.
Nothing he mentions actually makes any sense in this regard and it is disingenuous. The kind of half baked comment a man would have said back in the 1970's in the US. 50 years later it is nothing more that anti-feminism rant ignoring the wealth of information research scientists have uncovered about culture.
Not so much trolls, just the majority of users. Most tech related forums are like this. Such is life.
Preferring humanist over feminist is kind of nonsensical. Feminism roots are in gender inequality and voting rights. Modern feminism (last 40 or so years) is focused on oppression theory and is the evolution of humanism in modern times.
It is like saying I prefer astronomer over astrophysicist. It doesn't really make sense because they are different things from different times.
I never said it was anti-feminist to say you are against torture leading to murder (this of course did not actually happen in regards to Genghis and castration). In fact, feminism did not exist during the time of Ghenghis Khan nor did humanism.
Whenever examining history from a modern lense we should recognize the way we think and our motivations are significantly different from previous generations let alone several hundred years.
I said you were not a feminist. I am also not a feminist even though I have spent a lot of time at Uni and later on in my personal life studying it. I am what you would call an ally. If I am wrong about you, my apologies.
I am not an authority and yes I definitely filled in the blank. I am very good at guessing motivations, and as I said you showed some red flags right away with you story trying to conflate man-haters with feminism. This is such a common trope it shows your hand so to speak. If this was not your intention I understand.
I am sorry, but I did not mean to imply you said we should forgive abusers. I think a humanist perspective that looks towards rehabilitation and change rather than punishment is a great ideal. One that we are sorely lacking in modern times.
If you are not sure why a comic of a white male "man-splaining" something nonsensical to two women and then in the next panel the women having a conflict over race is offensive then I am not sure we view things as the same way.
As I pointed out it is a gross misrepresentation of modern feminism. Without humanism there wouldn't have been feminism and without feminism we would not have gotten minority studies that revealed through research institutionalized racism.
This is a direct threat to the ruling class hence the constant lies and propaganda pushback feminism has received. So you if you have an issue with feminism please bring receipts because I am a passionate human being who has studied it for years and I have daughters and grandkids.
My daughters experienced sexual assault and I got to deal with the police and see how the modern system works. The pushback from the Metoo movement is intense with prosecutors, police officers, and judges using their discretion to perpetuate a system of blatant sexism. My cynical side says they are either rapists themselves or enablers.
You are going to get what you want to get. If you don't feel welcomed to participate that is your decision. I am not a mod and I am not here to welcome anyone on a post that would attract the worst kind of people. I said my two cents and I often find myself getting involved when I should probably just walk away. It is a personal failing of mine.