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  • Fourth, here

  • Don't you know? It's 1000% the Dems fault that so many people decided to stay home.

    I loath the Dems but not nearly as much as the people who sat on their asses and let Trump waltz back into power, whether it be by using their vote to go third party as a weak protest, or by staying at home altogether.

    This was a failure of MANY different groups of people.

    "If you have a population of selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders"

  • It wasn't the singular reason she lost.

    There were many.

    But it IS a factor, an ugly one but one people seriously need to come to terms with.

    But apparently I hate AOC for pointing this out

  • Sure thing.

  • We are living in some bonkers logic if you think Trump and Hilary have ever worked together on anything.

  • That was a VERY different time. We didn't have these little screens programming our social views.

    I've said it in other replies that I hope I'm wrong, but we've been backsliding for some time, now.

    Kinda like how we saw a lot of white civil rights supporters in the 60s go flying to the right.

    We've been here before.

  • That's you. You are not everyone

    I don't have a problem with it, either.

    We are not the general public

  • Someone is definitely coming to conclusions they need in this conversation.

    Enjoy that.

  • Because she has such a wonderful relationship with him

  • Don't put words in my mouth. Stand on your own, and don't tell me what my motivations are concerning why I draw my conclusions unless you have evidence to back it up

    Harris ran an extremely imperfect campaign, I fucking hate the fact that the Democrats are the only other option we have, and a senator is a LONG way off from the leader of the country.

    Huge. Fucking. Difference.

  • She's smart, capable, (imo) gorgeous and aggressive in her outlooks. This is threatening to a LOT of men and women alike in our society.

    As much as many hate to admit, misogyny is a problem in both left and right wing circles.

    Let me make this clear, she would 100% be my optimal choice for a presidential pick. I honestly believe she would be the best person for the job.

    I'm also unfortunately keenly aware of how far we have to go when it comes to overcoming the severely deep rooted hatred of women a lot of our citizens (on both spectrums) have.

    It sucks. Hard. But it IS a very real hurdle.

  • If you think gender had nothing to do with it I've got some baaaaaad news for you, my friend.

    Also, saying Hilary had Epstein murdered in his cell is a magnificent stretch, since there are literally hundreds of scenarios that could have led to his death. An unsubstantiated conspiracy theory didn't hurt Hilary's campaign, especially since Epstein was still alive at that point.

    Are Americans tired of corporate shills? Certainly. Do we still have a severe misogyny problem? Most definitely. To say otherwise is just silly.

  • I would too. I like her. A lot.

    I just don't think she would have as good a chance as we all wish she could.

    Make no mistake, I would LOVE to be wrong here, I would love to think the Murican people have evolved enough to realize that a woman in charge would probably be in our best interest, I just don't see it happening. At least not in 2028

  • I'm down.

  • Muricans won't show up to elect a woman as president and y'all need to figure this out.

    I love AOC but if she ran as president you're gonna see exactly what happened the last two times a woman ran.

    Gotta be realistic. It's a shitty reality but it is the reality we live in.

    Walz is a good candidate with a history of helping his citizens. AOC is a firecracker for sure, but the public isn't going to elect a woman of color. They just aren't.

  • Funny you think those were legitimate attempts.

  • A Deplorian

  • I live around em too. And all the Cheeto has to do is give them someone else to blame for their hardships, and it'll work

    Towards the end of WW2 when Germany was in shambles he still had supporters who fanatically stood by the mustache man.

    Will there be pockets of angry people? Sure.

    But many will just be angry at whoever Trump tells them to be angry at

  • Not gonna happen. I'm in a deep red area and the basic sentiment is that it's okay as long as he "saves this country".