For instance, look up a bunch of reviews, go into a bunch of commercial places and ask who does their cleaning (if it meets your standards of course). Most commercial cleaning companies also do domestic work, you can also in some instances get a single clean done, whatever areas you do/don't want cleaned and see what the final cost is.
Cleaning company I used to work for almost always overquoted, on the grounds that we gave the worst possible out come in terms of price, and most clients were pleasantly surprised at the outcome.
There are also many who underquote to lure clients so don't rush in finding a good cleaner.
Former cleaner here, most peoples bathrooms look like that, I used to tell folks to get a professional in to get it to a good state, then it's just maintaining it.
Appreciate the response, I'll give matrix and elements a look-see.
Unfortunately I'm the only among the group that interacts with(or even knows of) the fediverse and it's associated softwares, so I expect there to be some drama involved, hopefully I can be the salesman they need.
What do the Lemmings recommend as a replacement for discord?
I'm happy to revert back to teamspeak if need be, I heard it's app recently got an overhaul (or at the very least a facelift).
I'm disgusted (though not shocked, I fucking called it years ago), that discord would go down this rabbit hole being that their main demographic is gamers. The stats are in, gamers (among every other living being) hates ads.
In fact, I pay for YT music because I think it's good value, but ive never once had YT premium, and I haven't seen an ad on their site for close to a decade now. (Still no pihole, that's likely next).
To circle back, if possible Lemmings, I would like to find a discord replacement that my folks would be willing to install/try out. I've got a couple people who have said "hey man, find a better spot and we'll tag along", however I have yet to find a suitable replacement on my own time.
What a fucking cooker.