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  • Do you not feel the irony of calling that out when the winner of both of those elections was trump?

    To use a phrase... If I had a nickel for every time we've elected orange Hitler, I'd have two nickles, but it's weird that it happened twice.

  • Ok bud, you are just being pedantic now… I have explained it 1000x times…

    Being pedantic matters here, because you are countering a position I didn't make. If you don't want me to be pedantic about it, then either show I made the argument (by quoting it) or drop the argument.

    Correct, to highlight that you are asking people to compromise with the Democrats when the Democrats would not compromise with the people.

    Pretry sure Democrats did compromise with the people who voted in their primary. That's the whole point of having a primary...

  • So go vote for who you want in the primaries, and vote against who you don’t want in the general.

    Alright. Please highlight in that statement where I said that the US was a perfectly functional and not systemically broken democracy?

    Again I repeat (as many others while you keep on ignoring them in this thread), the problem here is that you keep on painting a picture where people have a say which is not the case.

    Funny that you wrote this... And in the very next paragraph mentioned Mamdani winning despite the opposition from political insiders.

    I don't think you are in a position to judge the fairness of an election process, as you seem convinced that Bernie should have been the DNC nominee despite losing by 3 million votes in the primary ( and again, that is votes not delegates) And yes, I'm going to call you out on that until you walk it back.

  • You offered a solution based on a working democracy which is not the case here… why do you offer one if you know it won’t work?

    Please provide specifics, otherwise you are just talking around what I actually wrote.

    I did read your link. Do two things for me here. First, look up how many votes (not delegates but votes) Bernie and Hillary got in the primary. Second, please recognize that I am talking about direct votes for a candidate, not the delegates. Let me know if you think a working democracy is one where the less popular candidate gets the nomination.

  • I’m sorry

    No you aren't, don't lie.

    ...not recognizing the flavour of democracy the USA has is broken is a problem.

    I never claimed that democracy in the US wasn't broken. If you think I did, please point specific statements.

    Here you go...

    How many votes did Bernie get in the primary, and how many did Hillary get? I can understand being upset about the results of the primary if Bernie had received more votes than Hillary, and then the DNC nominated Hillary anyway, but that didn't happen. He lost the primary, and thus he was not the candidate. He knows that democracy is a compromisea, and he not just voted for, but publicly supported and campaigned for Hillary after he lost the nomination.

  • Okay. I meant to imply that any democracy (practically by definition) is based on compromise, which is why I said that straight up instead of snarkily (and unhelpfully) bashing the USA.

    As for the Hillary-Bernie thing... At then end of the primary, Hillary had like 3 million more votes than Bernie did. Notably, Bernie conceeded to Hillary and even campaigned for her, because he knew that she was much better than trump, and democracy is inherently a compromise.

  • Any/every democracy?

  • I know what compromise looks like and I reward it when I see it.

    ... I will not keep falling in line for candidates that would rather lose than listen to me...

    I rest my case.

  • I think you are missing the meaning of "compromise". You need to vote for the candidate that will best represent you... And part of the best representation equation is being able to win the election.

  • Sure, and compromise is inherent to democracy. So go vote for who you want in the primaries, and vote against who you don't want in the general.

  • It's not good, but at this point, the President is pushing Republicans to redrawn districts to explicitly favor Republicans, which is explicitly illegal. He should be impeached for this, along with any Republicans who go along with it. But... With Republican control of all 3 branches of government, he will never be impeached and removed. At this point, fighting fire with fire is the only option left.

    So no, it's not good, it would just be way worse not to do it

  • That's why I dropped out. Sophomore year, I was calling a bunch of places to get an internship, and the answer was always the same... "We only do unpaid internships, and you pretty much need a master's in your field to get in." I dropped shortly after that and saved myself from spending another 20 grand on a STEM degree that would get me less per hour than a pizza delivery driver.

  • My grandma's 28hr slow roasted goodyears were "fall off the rim" tender.

  • It's worked in the past.

  • No taxation without representation.

    If the speaker is preventing my elected official from representing me, then I shouldn't have to pay a fucking cent until they are seated.

  • Yeah. We wanted that from the last admin, but they fucked up by being worried about appearing partisan.

  • Dems : maybe we shouldn’t wreck healthcare anymore than it already is?

    Republicans : WE WILL LITERALLY SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AND STARVE YOU TO DEATH TO PROTECT A CHILD RAPIST AND SAVE BILLIONAIRES A COUPLE MIL ON TAXES!

    You : These guys are basically the same, right?

  • Are they actually worse people than ice?

    Oh sure. I'm positive there are some ICE rejects that are also pedophiles.

  • Or.. number 3 : Only the racist chuds who couldn't meet the requirements to join ICE become bounty hunters, and they just capture people and further the fear felt by non-whites in the US. Which is the intended goal here.