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  • Y tho

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  • This reminds me of Bender putting his arms back on.

  • Still works over Ukraine somehow... Maybe that fancy satellite network just carries it to the next available ground station?

  • To put into scale how wrong you are about taking out a satellite, the last satellite the US shot down was in 2008, and it took a specially modified 9 million dollar missile to shoot it down. A Starlink satellite with launch costs included is just under 2 million dollars. Not only is it technologically difficult to take out a satellite, but it's much more costly to shoot them down than it is to put them up.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Burnt_Frost

    It's not a trivial thing to take out a single satellite, let alone a whole constellation of satellites.

    You literally could not be more wrong about this.

    ...Russia bombed their power plants, all the cabling, and it was a literal war zone.

    Here you are acknowledge that ground-based systems are very vulnerable to attack. Guess what still works in Ukraine right now (or at least when Elon allows it to work). You got it. Starlink.

    How about another comparison. Starlink has a full project estimated cost of ~10 billion dollars, that's with launches and satellites. The estimated cost to rebuild Ukraine's telecom network is 4.7 billion dollars, and that is just for the damaged infrastructure in Ukraine. Starlink has already generated 72 million in profit (not revenue, but profit!)

    We gave telecom providers 200 billion in tax breaks to build a fiber network in the US, and they didn't even finish the job. 20x what Starlink's estimated cost is.

    Serioualy, the scale of how wrong you are about all of this is staggering.

  • Ford made it out of resin and it was an issue. Point being, ICE cars are mechanically more complex, and more likely to strand you due to failures that are beyond your control.

  • The other thing we should learn is that primaries matter. Primaries are where you vote for the person you want, general elections are where you vote against the one you don't.

  • Alright. Let's clear this up.

    Are satellite links easier to take down than a fiber link? No. It takes specialized weapons manfactured by state level actors to take out a a single satellite, let alone a whole constellation. I can take a pair of wire clippers, and take out every cable link in my neighborhood in a afternoon. Russia fairly regularly sabotages undersea cables just by "accidentally" dragging an anchor over them.

    Is Starlink funded partially by public money? Absolutely yes, along with every other telecom provider. Hell, we gave them the public TV bands as compensation for builfijg a public fiber network (which they never even fucking did!)

    Do Starlink satellite need to be replaced at extreme cost? Yes, but so does terresrrial network infrastructure. There is a reason why your internet isn't 12kbps anymore... As far as the cost goes, the consumers determine if the cost is worth the benefit, and so far the answer is 'yes'.

    Ever wonder why Ukraine was using Starlink for network connections in the first place? Maybe it's becuse the vulnerable terrestrial based networks were damaged or taken out of service months ago, and you can't exactly get a contractor to go into a warzone and lay down new cables.

    Your points, that satellites based networks are more vulnerable and prohibitively expensive is simply not compatible with reality.

  • No, I maintained my cars. What's the maintenance schedule on an intake manifold?

  • I'm well aware of those issues as well, which is why I'm not pro-starlink replacing all terrestrial networks.

  • It is simply harder to sabotage if the wires are underground and cannot be readily seen by hostile actors.

    This statement is not correct. It is the topic being discussed. Fiber network are more vulnerable than satellite networks. It takes specialized weapons to take out a single satellite link. Any idiot with wire clippers can take out a fiber link, and it happens all the time. Fiber networks are more difficult to replace at scale than a satellite network, and individuals links are more important to fiber network than they are to satellite networks.

  • No. That's not what I said. Please stop trying to frame this like I am pro-starlink. I'm not.

  • Nope. But I think it would faster and easier to replace all fiber with Starlink than it would to replace all fiber with fiber again.

  • Well, I had a muffler partially fall off. Fuel filter clogged (twice) intake manifold cracked and caused a misfire. O2 sensor went haywire and put the car in a limp mode... I've never run out of gas, but I've heard that isn't uncommon for other people. Ignition coils went bad... Consider yourself very lucky.

  • It doesn't need to be.

  • That’s… um… how it works? It’s generally one, maybe two, cables connecting continents: https://dabrownstein.com/2015/06/30/charting-interconnectedness-in-undersea-internet-cables/

    I mean, some continents, like the US, have myriad cables connecting. And purposefully sabotaging these is almost as challenging as repairing them.

    I think you didn't quite understand. I'm not talking about just undersea cables. An accurate comparison for the impact of blowing up the entire Starlink constellation would be to remove ALL the fiber optic cables in an entire nation, not just the undersea cables. That is a more accurate comparison.

    I may not have an expert level of economic knowledge, but the fact that Starlink exists and it can provide better service than rural broadband programs or the extensive terrestrial mobile broadband networks (which still use satellites BTW) is a pretty good indicator that it is viable.

    Frankly this entire statement is insulting, and you should retract it.

    I get the feeling you don’t understand the economics, physics, and infrastructure of various connectivity systems.

  • You should read and try to understand the whole thread before you reply to it, otherwise you'll miss important context.

    Anyone But Trump, 2028

  • But wait, there's more!

    You've seen the Peacock Mantish shrimp with his rock em sock em bopper of doom, but are you ready for Spear Mantis Shrimp, which have a motherfucking HARPOON instead of bashers?!

  • Oh, you must have just been born, or woken up from an 8 year long coma...

    Anyway. Donald Trump has become the president... twice, and each time he was running against someone who was notably, not trump.

  • Already have two of them in FO4. Mirelurk hunters and Fogcrawlers.