Just because meat eating outpaces veganism doesn’t mean vegans haven’t reduced the consumption of meat?that's exactly what it means. consumptiion of meat continues to grow. it has not been reduced.
if being vegan isn't effective, and your goal is to reduce animal slaughter, then you should try another method.
don't be petulant. I have no interest in answering yourbad faith questions. if you have a claim, make it.
The fact people are getting butthurt in the comments proves they know it's truehomophobia aside, this is not true
Not eating meat won't change the systemic problems but it will mean fewer animals will be subject to the industry.more animals are breed and slaughtered every year than the year before. being vegan has never reduced that
I'm just trying to keep the conversation honest and point out rhetorical traps laid by dishonest interlocutors
If you mean that “gotchas” (your words, not mine) cannot ever be logically soundi mean gotchas are bad faith. they are loaded questions.
ok. I am still open to voting for her but I think you are absolutely entitled to think she should leave governance
i'm stating facts, and you concede those facts, and then claim i'm arguing in bad faith. you don't know what that means: your accusation of bad faith is, itself bad faith.
they're wrong