Hi, I’m Agosagror and I do stuff.

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  • Thank you for such a great response and answer, although I feel I’ve sold my knowledge of leftist ideas a bit short since you have given me a introduction into all of it as well as your answer. But you did answer my question well so a follow up question, given that people could take advantage of the government in some sense, is it not a concern that new class styled system could take hold, one centered on favors from the central government.

    Another question which is probably less boring than my last couple, is do Marxist want to see eventual end of all oppressive forces, not just class based. To that extent I would think having a central government would be incompatible since it would allow for some one to take advantage of their position.

    Separately, I would think most people can solve their problems if given the means to do so, or the access to those with knowledge - is further centralization really the solution?

    I’ll take a skeptical look at your reading list. But you’ve given me some incredible insight into the ideas of Marxists, so thank you for that!


  • Agosagror@sh.itjust.workstoNo Stupid Questions@lemmy.worldCommunism
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    2 months ago

    Seeing around this thread you clearly know your stuff. So it feels appropriate to reply to you with questions I have,

    Somewhere in this thread one you thing you mentioned was the state/administration would have its exploitative elements removed and would just become an administrative and directive organization, slowly withering away. To me this feels contradictory, the same process that allow an organization to direct resources are surely the same process that allow an organization to exploit people?

    I’ve probably failed to word that correctly, so to illustrate what I mean, the guy who control who gets what, can just say “do what I want or I’ll deny you blah”, now what the administrator wants can of course be influenced by money, like today’s politicians, but I’m sure there are plenty of other things people want and could seek to gain - or even just the joy of controlling people.

    I suppose you can have checks, but that feels like a band aid if you accept what I said early, the institution in power is inherently able to exploit people - all checks have done is make it more difficult.

    To me this is not a consequence of the state/administration being exploitative, rather a consequence of the state having authority to control resource flow at all.

    I always camped in the areas of anarchist leftism, but I’m interested to see what you think and I’m not well read enough to comment properly so I imagine there’s a lot of mistakes in this reply so sorry in advance

    I have more questions, but this is quite long already so I’ll leave it here












  • I am of the belief that revolution isn’t going to happen, and if one did happen if would only be hijacked to maximize a select set of individuals authority. Capitalism has entrenched itself inside each and every single individual, much beyond the capacity of any one governments control in my view

    I believe that the only solution is for each and every individual to reject capitalism, and opt out. That said it is not easy to leave the infinite monopoly game, I reckon sustainable self sufficient individuals or communities are likely the only way to achieve this and each community or individual will have to do this by their own free accord.

    And even if there is a will to opt out, which will likely come from individuals almost exclusively, you need land and skills, land which is being brought up by corporations, skills and knowledge increasingly locked behind pay walls. And once you have gotten it all together, you are totally off the grid. Well you still have to convince everyone else.

    Although as more people achieve this, the challenge drops. Once a few people have done it joining up gets easier, many hands make light work after all.

    As for how to obtain that land and those skills, I suppose then it’s a question of how much are you will to bend or break the law, or risk it all. The Governments role here isn’t all that great, its just to make breaking the law less risky or not a requirement

    But hell maybe I’m wrong and the revolution is well on its way.