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  • Everyone has a different definition, but yeah generally free speech in an ideal sense extends to just before you start causing what a reasonable person would concern harm to someone.

  • I agree that authoritarian governments' versions of events usually vary from misleading to downright false, but I used a direct quotation from the article linked in the post, so if you have issues with the veracity then take it up with the post author or Wikipedia editors.

    I haven't disputed the indiscriminate slaughter post-insurgency, or that there were some instances of it before the insurgency, it's just that it wasn't a direct causation, and if you have time in the title to specify cause and effect, then you should do the most direct cause and most direct effect, not the one which makes your favoured group look the most innocent.

  • Taken directly from the linked article:

    A general strike was later organized by the Workers' Party of South Korea (WPSK) from February to March 1948. The WPSK launched an insurgency in April 1948, attacking police and Northwest Youth League members stationed on Jeju who had been mobilized to suppress the protests by force.[1]: 166–167 [6] The First Republic of Korea under President Syngman Rhee escalated the suppression of the uprising from August 1948, declaring martial law in November and beginning an "eradication campaign" against rebel forces in the rural areas of Jeju in March 1949, defeating them within two months. This resulting campaign has led to the event being called the Jeju massacre.

    The escalation by the government came in August, after the insurgency had been launched, and I don't think it's up for debate that after this point the government forces were slaughtering indiscriminately.

    Thanks once again for proving my point that you're being disingenuous, in this case by incorrectly representing the timeline, when once again the facts are on your side and you don't need to make an unjustified slaughter of a country's own people look any less justified.

    I haven't once defended Rhee Syngman, all I've done is say you make yourselves look untrustworthy and suspicious by misrepresenting the truth, even when you don't need to.

  • "for the crime of organising a general strike"

    It wasn't for the general strike, it was following violence against the regime who tried to suppress the general strike.

    Once again, the violence was completely excusable given the circumstances, but to say that the regime's actions were even mostly due to a simple general strike is incredibly disingenuous.

    I'm not looking to villify the workers, I'm saying that tankies have a long history of hiding parts of the truth that show any form of wrongdoing by leftists, even when that wrongdoing was excusable or necessary, and that doing that is worse for your image than accepting history as it happens.

  • You realise you're not helping your image by attacking viewpoints I don't even hold, right?

    I responded to a comment asking why the post asking why details were omitted when the truth was on your side anyway, and you instantly take that as an attack on your beliefs, because posting the full truth or in any way acknowledging shortcomings of your comrades is actively discouraged, as you're very kindly demonstrating for me.

    For full clarity, the actions of the old RoK government were inexcusable. The actions of the protesters were excusable given the context, but that doesn't mean they didn't happen or that we can call them something they weren't.

  • I'm not defending anyone, I'm saying that it's unsurprising that the title is a part-truth given the instance.

    It's also unsurprising that you get attacked for pointing out that the victims weren't entirely innocent: a general strike and a revolution are not the same, regardless of the cause, because the full, accurate, truth is discouraged here even when it paints the same picture you were originally trying to.

  • A pint or large glass of wine a day is about 10L per year, so yeah, given someone who doesn't drink alcohol is cancelled out by someone who drinks two pints a day I'm very surprised these numbers aren't bigger

  • Eh, there's a lot of blending of conjecture, opinion and fact all presented as truth, and their handling of mistakes could be better - they've openly said if they consider a mistake to be minor then they don't even issue a correction or update.

    I personally think that attitude towards production pushes it towards slop, as for things like entertainment one of the key defining things that separate slop from quality media is passion, but if you don't care about making accurate content then are you any better than just getting AI to write a script?

  • Germanic speakers moment

  • I don't think they have one full time, but I think given the context of the changes it's very plausible that companies put together committees formed of minorities or marketing or anyone with an opinion to workshop rebranding and renaming options to make the company appear progressive, and I think even if it wasn't the case, the perception of that sort of thing happening is more responsible than people think for the rise of Trump, AfD, Reform, FN etc. as the average person doesn't want posturing and is pushed towards the opposite direction by it, with the shift amplified by the fact that people aren't happy with the status quo at the moment, so if the status quo are acting like the left then the people will see the right as the opposite of that, regardless of who's in government.

    That's not to say the opinions of the people who you know have complained about it aren't valid, it's just that I'd much rather have some dated vocabulary, slurs occasionally being used casually and questionable branding than raids on immigrants and the rights of minorities being eroded after one extreme pushes moderates to the other extreme.

  • I don't recall any actual person saying they had an issue with it before corporations started changing it though, I always thought it was a precautionary measure more than likely thought up by a committee looking for exactly this sort of thing...

    That said, it may be different in the US given the history of overall more systemic discrimination, and divisiveness over what's acceptable, rather than the fairly widely accepted casual slur-slinging and stereotyping you get in Europe.

  • That's why you ask 6 of them, and of they all come to the same conclusion then chances are it's either right, or a common pitfall.

  • 떡볶이us (or 떡볶이ius I guess?)

    no complaints actually it sounds kind of cool

  • Nah, as a European this is pretty un-American

    Their propaganda is usually much more subtle

  • It's not even like you need to ban guns, you can still hunt or shoot targets with a shotgun or nonautomatic rifle, but what you can't do is spray into a crowd or pull out concealed pistol and shoot someone.

    The cops get less antsy as they'll be able to see if you have a gun, mass shootings go down as you can't shoot as fast and people have longer to cover/disperse, and yet you can still do the vast majority of legitimate things with them.

  • The Leif Erikson one is very subjective though; you could celebrate:

    • The first humans to cross the Bering Strait, which is a long extinct lineage
    • The earliest ancestors to settle the Americas, whom we don't even know the descendants of
    • The first Europeans to reach the Americas, ie Leif Erikson (Polynesia did it much later)
    • The first people to cross an ocean to get to the Americas, most likely Polynesians but possibly Columbus
    • The first Europeans to form a permanent settlement in the Americas, ie Columbus
    • The founders of the forerunner to the US, ie Walter Raleigh & co
    • The founding fathers for founding the US

    And plenty more I'm sure you could come up with

  • I don't know about "art", one part of ai image generation is of replacing stock images and erotic photos which frankly I don't have a huge issue with as they're both at least semi-exploitative industries anyway in many ways and you just need something that's good enough.

    Obviously these don't extend to things a reasonable person would consider art, but business majors and tech bros rebranding something shitty to position it as a competitor to or in the same class as something it so obviously isn't.