• I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Do they really think the genocide would stop if the US stopped supporting Israel? Are they really that ignorant of the situation over there?

    Here’s a hint, all indications are that it would make things much, much worse. If you don’t understand how, then you haven’t been paying attention.

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        2 months ago

        Have the serenity to accept the things you cannot change, the courage to change the things you can, and wisdom to know the difference.

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          You will be enriched in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion.

          We’re just hitting the “random Bible verse” button right? Because speaking out against injustice is something that one can control. I can’t stop the injustice, but I can sure as hell make sure everyone knows that I think it’s shitty, and I can hope they will eventually stop being shitty.

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            2 months ago

            You’re describing your version of “thoughts and prayers.”

            The pro-Palestinian movement has devolved into a movement that’s largely based around hatred of Israel. Which is why most of society is ignoring it now. The genocide that’s being used to justify that hatred didn’t happen. The UN expressed concerns earlier in the year (which many took to be a declaration of genocide) but we haven’t heard anything from them since then. There were concerns over there being a famine (people said that was Israel’s intention) but that also didn’t happen.

            The pro-Palestinian movement was unable to contain their hatred. Some people tried to call out the antisemitism but they were drowned out by the hate. So now it’s become an alt-right movement that distrusts the mainstream media (many think it’s controlled by the Jews) and have restricted their information intake to just internet sources that agree with their narrative. So it’s being ignored by most of society… other than concerns about potential violence coming from that movement. That movement failed to influence the broader population because no matter how much the hatred is denied by those within the movement, its obvious to everyone outside of the movement

            Pushing false narratives isn’t going to help anyone in Palestine, but it’s not about helping Palestinians now is it? It’s about promoting hatred of Israel. The “speaking out” about a false narrative is just something that makes you feel better, it doesn’t help anyone. Probably actually hurts Palestinians because there won’t be peace as long as the hatred persists.

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        2 months ago

        Q — outside an Israeli — or outside the Israel Embassy. Was the President aware of his death? Did he have any sort of response to it?

        MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Yes, the President is aware. And we can — I can say that it is — obviously, is a — it’s a horrible tragedy, and our thoughts are with the family of the servicemember at — during this — I could — we can’t even imagine this hor- — horrible, difficult time.

        Just thoughts and prayers. No acknowledgement of his reasons why, no policy change, just more weapons sent for Israel’s genocide

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    2 months ago

    Big oof. Don’t they know that self-immolation only really works for stuff that the general public doesn’t know about?

    It doesn’t really work for stuff that most are aware of and have opinions on. It just makes him look like an mentally ill suicide victim. Not exactly someone to listen to on foreign policy

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    2 months ago

    It’s mindless and morally reprehensible to valorize someone’s suicide, regardless of the excuse they might have given.