Brazilian president makes comments after supreme court votes to uphold X ban over refusal to obey court orders

The Brazilian president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, has said he hopes the crisis surrounding the social network X in Brazil might teach the world that “it isn’t obliged to put up with [Elon] Musk’s far-right free-for-all just because he is rich”.

Lula’s comments to the network CNN Brasil came after the supreme court voted unanimously on Monday to uphold the ban on X, which is now largely inaccessible in one of its biggest global markets.

The suspension was first ordered on Friday as a result of the company’s refusal to obey court orders requiring the removal of profiles accused of spreading disinformation and for the social network to name a local legal representative.

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  • fartemoji@lemmy.worldEnglish
    91·
    2 months ago

    So I agree with you about the whole “arresting people after they yell fire and not before” thing, but we’re talking about people who attempted a coup here, these aren’t hypothetical pre-crimes.

    To your earlier point about going after the people who actually did the coup:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-64299892

    According to this BBC article, 39 people were indicted within about a week of the attack

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_attack

    According to Wikipedia, 86 people have been convicted and sentenced to jail time.

    I’m sure there are better numbers but I don’t speak Portuguese so I’m not going to find them.

    Also, while this conflict did begin with Brazil wanting them to ban accounts who helped organize the coup attempt, x was banned because they refuse to appoint a Brazilian legal representative.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crkmpe53l6jo

    • intensely_human@lemm.eeEnglish
      28·
      2 months ago

      but we’re talking about people who attempted a coup here, these aren’t hypothetical pre-crimes

      We’re talking about the entire country of Brazil — 200 million people — being cut off from using X.

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.caEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        We’re talking about the entire country of Brazil — 200 million people — being cut off from using X.

        Companies that don’t follow the laws of a country don’t get to operate in that country. The entire country of the United States - 300 million people - are cut off from enjoying Kinder Surprise. Are you equally outraged about that?

        When a company says “Lol, we’re not going to have a way for you to hold us accountable” then a country is obviously going to shut them down. They’re not going to let a company ignore their sovereignty like that.

        • tektite@slrpnk.netEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          The entire country of the United States - 300 million people - are cut off from enjoying Kinder Surprise. Are you equally outraged about that?

          I’m not the person you’re responding to and I don’t care about twitter but

          YES! If I want to choke on a toy hidden inside a chocolate egg then THAT SHOULD BE MY RIGHT!!!

      • ochi_chernye@startrek.websiteEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        Yeah, it’s too bad it’s only 200 million, and only “X”. All the billionaire-controlled, black-box content algorithm social media sites are a cancer on humanity. Nobody’s freedom is being impinged upon by banning them; they’re the private fiefdoms of oligarchs, who blatantly wield them in service of their own agendas. Banning them is the sensible thing to do, and I can only hope that other governments follow suit.

        • intensely_human@lemm.eeEnglish
          12·
          2 months ago

          Nobody’s freedom is being impinged upon by banning them

          Actually yes, the freedom to use those applications is infringed by banning them

      • P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        Like if exactly 200 million people could afford eletronics (saying from experience) or caring about Twitter at all.