Oppose Genocide and even the controlled opposition will come after you.

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    How would a Democrat/Republican plant who was purposely trying to sabotage the Greens and prevent them from gaining relevance act differently from Jill Stein?

    They wouldn’t.

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        That doesn’t address my point. If the Greens were a serious party there would be a large movement to boot Stein for how ineffectual she’s been as a leader.

        Say what you will about Democrats and Biden, but they are leagues ahead of Greens and Stein in this regard.

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          Recently watched Channel5 interviews at the Poor People’s Army rally at the DNC and listened to Stein talk for like 10minutes. She’s not wrong with anything she says, but she is entirely and completely innefectual at fomenting any momentum to effect the change she speaks about. So up to this point all they have achieved is to become the butt of everyone’s jokes.

          The Green party does support ranked choice voting, but it’s seemingly down the list of their concerns when it should be #1, with a bullet. They will never, ever, achieve anything except the odd headline until we move on from first past the post.

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            Her number one issue currently is stopping an ongoing Genocide.

            Another huge issue is repealing Citizend United and getting the bribes out of politics.

            Besides that there’s raising minimum wage, healthcare and basically everything else people are demanding from Democrats but they refuse to do.

            Prioritizing is getting tough these days.

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              Her number one issue currently is stopping an ongoing Genocide.

              What tangible steps has she taken to do so? If she’s unable to take any because she doesn’t hold an elected position, and she truly believes Democrats won’t do anything, then her top priority to stopping the genocide should be winning any elected position. Her utter mismanagement of the Green party suggests that is nowhere near her goal.

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                Exactly. She has been the head of the Green Party’s for Y E A R S and they are still nowhere nearer winning offices than they were when she took over. It’s all great and well to talk about change, but when your the head of ostentibly the only viable third party and continuously fail to achieve anything, step the fuck aside and find someone who can.

                Again, I don’t disagree with almost anything Stein advocates for. I just think she enjoys the smell of her own farts to an excessive degree.

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                  So let’s post angry comments about it when she’s about to win votes! That will show her!

                  “I agree with her but she shouldn’t run against Fascist liberals!” ?

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                What mismanagement are you talking about? You’re talking as if she’s not campaigning.

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                  Can you answer that person’s question? What tangible steps has Jill Stein taken to stop an ongoing genocide?

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                    She has demonstrated against israel, has an anti-colonialist VP and promised a full arms embargo against israel.

                    Pledge to Stop Genocide

                    It’s insane people who support Holocaust Harris are asking about “tangible steps” to stop an ongoing Genocide to begin with.

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          Am going to bed but please read my comment above. The person you responded to doesn’t know what they’re talking about and WI law is very clear about why the Dems are filling their complaint. Green Party can’t get their shit together even with a write-in campaign.

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          AOC the ardent supporter of Joe Biden who wanted to keep him when even the establishment wanted Biden out. She certainly know what an effective leader looks like…

          I wonder why she’s throwing dirt at Jill Stein if she’s not winning… Could it be because the coming elections have Stein polling better than the previous ones?

          The Democrats are running an establishment ghoul who dropped out in the 2020 election because she was deeply unpopular… We’re reaching some peak irony.

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            You’re still not addressing my main point that Stein is terrible for the Green party and indistinguishable from someone who’s purposely trying to sabotage it.

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        WI state law requires that state officers like members of legislature, judges, or even candidates for the leg, be the person/people that nominates electors. The Green Party even had ample time to mount a write-in campaign for a legislative candidate for the primary that was held a couple of weeks ago, and they didn’t. Dems filed a complaint the day after the primary because that’s the soonest they could do it.

        I don’t understand how the Green Party demands to be taken seriously but then routinely breaks incredible simple to understand rules.

        It’s stuff like this that really annoys me about Green Party. Like really, where in WI state law does it says a party doesn’t require a state officer to nominate electors? Nowhere, because it says the complete polar opposite of that and the Green Party is either being ignorant or wilfully ignorant. Personally, I don’t understand how one can look at this situation and call the Dem’s complaint a “dirty trick in the book of sabotage”.

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          Yes yes, the Dems concern troll everything with “very good reasons” and the Judge just so happens to throw it out.

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            So you’re too lazy/stupid to actually learn why the Green Party isn’t following the rules and just settling on some bullshit rage bait, got it.

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                Again, why do you keep dodging the fact that the Green Party blatantly failed to meet the very simple to meet rules? Like you’re a grown ass adult and this is really how you respond to basic questions? Jesus christ, just pathetic. Stop wasting my time.