• Julian@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    If only people could understand the basic concept that hating a government is possible without hating the people living there.

    • waz@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      One of my favorite quotes:

      If I have one message to give to the secular American people, it’s that the world is not divided into countries. The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don’t know each other, but we talk together and we understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.  - Marjane Satrapi 
      

      Different situation, same idea.

      • eatham 🇭🇲@aussie.zone
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        1 year ago
        1. Democracy and genocide are separate

        2. Israel is by definition obviously not committing genocide, the Palestinians population is only going up

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    A reminder:

    Palestinians are awesome!

    The genocidal regime that rules over Gaza who murder innocent people while blocking Palestinian democracy is NOT AWESOME!

    • DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      What about all the Palestinians internationally that are currently celebrating that massacre?

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        1 year ago

        Obviously not awesome but easy to explain. I assume that being Palestinian gives them a certain - very one sided perspective on the conflict because they probably perceive Israel as an evil colonialist terror State that has been oppressing and killing them for decades.

      • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 year ago

        We gay people must provide the palestinians with clean drinking water, and this will change hearts and minds 🏳️‍⚧️🙆‍♀️

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          Are they the root, or are they a justification? Seems like a pretty reductive take, to be honest.

          Wars have been occurring for a long time, and generally a desire for resources (including control over people) is a leading cause. Religion is an easy thing to use to get people to lay their lives on the line for you if they already have that belief. Equally it’s an easy scapegoat for anti-religious people to blame wars on as well.

          This conflict isn’t just about religion. If it was then Israel’s neighbours probably would have got involved as well.

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    Wow, the anti-Israel propaganda machine snaps into action before the Israeli civilian deaths are even counted. This is just shameful.

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    Calling the Israel govt “genocidal” is not fair or accurate. Israel has had military superiority over Gaza every day since it was captured in 1967. If they were genocidal, they could’ve slaughtered all the people in Gaza at any time. Instead, the population of Gaza has doubled since 1967. If you want to know what a real genocidal regime looks like, imagine the situation were reversed and Hamas had overwhelming military superiority over Israel. Imagine Hamas had tanks, F-16s, F-35s, and Apache helicopters. What would happen? The genocide would start immediately. Hamas would be slaughtering civilians en masse. No restraint. No negotiations. True Genocide.

    Before you ask, I’m not Jewish and I’m not defending Israeli atrocities. I just think this is an extremely simplistic and unfair characterization of Israel.