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      7 months ago

      So I literally can’t talk about anything other than exactly the topic of this article? I am discussing the core thing he did to even be noticed. I am also responding directly to someone painting him as a morally righteous prisoner of conscience.

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        7 months ago

        His moral righteousness is irrelevant to the fact that he is being persecuted for journalism.

        It’s not like the core thing he did to even be noticed is relevant.

        The fuck does this mean? The core thing he did to be noticed is also the thing that’s getting him persecuted.

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          7 months ago

          I feel like you’re not allowing two statements to be true.

          1. Assange is being doggedly pursued by the US for leaking state secrets. No I do not think he deserves to be punished for information he released like with Afghanistan. I think we are better for it and clearly this is the US making an example of him. Obviously we all knew he would be pursued, but again, I think that was the morally right thing to do, and I believe in protecting whistleblowers

          2. I also take umbrage with any attempts to make him out to be a good person or in any way virtuous, which is what the comment I responded to did. He isn’t. He had my support when he was standing for transparency, and he lost it when it became clear he saw leaks as a tool for his political preferences and friends.

          We can hold these two ideas at the same time.

          As for the sexual assault allegations against him, I have no clue what to think the waters are too muddy there. So I just don’t engage that generally.

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            7 months ago

            I also take umbrage with any attempts to make him out to be a good person or in any way virtuous, which is what the comment I responded to did.

            Did we read the same comment? They literally called him a scumbag. 🙄

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              7 months ago

              “A bit of a scumbag” dilutes the fact that he failed at the very mission people praise him for. I am happy to admit that I am was somewhat off in my initial reading of their comment. I do not want to get bogged down in that.

              The point is that Assange was a useful tool for a certain brand of politics and certain parties. We all need to recognize that. “He’s a bit of a scum bag” isn’t even close to the reality of how nefarious his actions were.