• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    5 months ago

    Can people maybe admit, just in this thread, that the Houthis might just not be a very good group of people, even if they do claim to be fighting Israeli genocide by shooting at random ships?

    • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      Agree 100%. This is a military junta seizing power by force. They have no legitimacy and their near indiscriminate piracy should rule out any legitimacy. I have no special love for Israel but hating Israel is not an excuse for what they do.

      I say send in Seal Team 6 tonight and when their main leadership doesn’t wake up tomorrow the world (and Yemen) will be a better place for it.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        5 months ago

        But like clockwork, every time the Houthis are mentioned here, people chime in to talk about how they are heroes for fighting Israel. Which they aren’t even actually doing. Nothing they have ever done helps Palestine in any way. But they claim they’re fighting Israel, so apparently that’s all that matters.

        Meanwhile, they are responsible for the deaths of thousands of their own child soldiers. I’ve even had people handwave that away because they say they’re fighting Israel.

        • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          Agree 100%. And same thing with Israel itself. I didn’t like the way they treated Palestine, but that doesn’t justify slaughtering teenagers at a music festival. Nothing does. Even if Israel is awful, no civilized person or society should ever condone killing unarmed kids at a concert.

          The ‘response’ has obviously become a war of terror against the Gaza area, which in it’s current form is equally unjustified. Makes me sick we (USA) continue to supply weapons for a punishment operation. Especially after it would seem Israel has gotten blood for blood revenge well past the 1000-for-1 level. It’s just needless suffering.

          But you try to say Israel was justified in SOME kind of armed response and it’s like you support Hitler.

          I don’t blame Hamas for wanting to hurt Israel. I blame them for choosing unarmed kids as their target. There’s no justification for that, ever.

      • homura1650@lemm.ee
        cake
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        5 months ago

        And what happens after you kill the Houthi leadership? Do all of the Houthi forces turn over their weapons and go home? Get taken over by a more radical leadership? Split up into a bunch of cells with no centralized leadership?

        The Houthis are not a force for good on the region. However, compared with other terrorist groups, they are relatively rational and constrained. If even half of their forces want to go more extreme, they will have a proximate reason to do so, and no leadership to stop them.

        The likely result is the Gaza war expands into having a full war on the Yemen front (which is, admittadly, on track to happen anyway), against an enemy that no longer has the capacity to negotiate or surrender.

        As a fun side note, a bunch of those cells are also going to be freshly angry at the US, which is very much not in her interest.

        We’ve tried killing terrorist leadership before. It tends to not end well.