The Treasury Department is warning that state laws that restrict banks from considering environmental, social and governance factors could harm efforts to address money laundering and terrorism financing.

Maybe that’s the point.

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        🫡 So long, Florida, and thanks for all the fish.

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          The water is too hot for fish, the OCEAN was 101.1 °F last summer, not sure if it’s gotten that hot they this year, but it’s not going to be hosting much wildlife at that temp. Other than e.coli maybe.

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          West Antarctic alone is about 3m, I don’t know how fast that goes, but without the buttressing of the shelf it’s inevitable (best case in 13ky, or in some hundred years). Either way, Florida better get smart about this, they should/could/would know what’s coming

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            I absolutely agree long term with out change Florida will be submerged. I only hoped to relay that this was a “in 20 years” type deal.

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          I just read an article on Arstechnica stating that sea level rise is accelerating rapidly for the American South, and went up nearly an inch last year (going off of memory so I’ll have to look up the article and link it)

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        Pretty sure a 5 meter rise isn’t possible. If it is, it won’t be in our lifetime.

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          3 meters is pretty doable in our lifetime. But it wasn’t the model 10 years ago so who knows where this speedrun will take us.

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            … well that’s fucking depressing. I’d wager it could have been about 10 years ago when I heard that.

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          A complete Greenland slide-off would be an average sea level rise of about 7m, and is possible in our lifetimes as an extreme event (something like a fraction of a percent chance before 2100). If it happened it would be multiple events really, spread out across years or decades. Antarctic ice moving so its weight is no longer supported by the continent was too unlikely to include in models a few years ago, but the West Antarctic has been so active that I’d expect it to start showing up in estimates.

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        I don’t understand this map, I live very close to the coast and am 20+ feet above sea level. 5 meters is 16’ 4.85".

        The highest point in Pinellas county is 110’, for those who don’t know, it’s the peninsula on West Coast of Florida.

        I’m not under the impression there will be a consistent land mass, but something more resembling new islands, keys and beach fronts makes more sense than showing areas entirely underwater.

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    Funny how anti-woke is always synonymous with anti-freedom. The government doesn’t approve of your opinions, and therefore must use the force of law to punish you.

    The good news is, I wouldn’t expect these laws to survive in the long term. The federal government could easily preempt them since they obviously involve interstate commerce. And I suspect there’s probably some blatant viewpoint discrimination baked into the laws, but that would come down to the specifics of the wording. But even if they are content neutral, I’d argue that they violate the first amendment, which thanks to citizens united would have to be applied to financial institutions too.

    And that brings us to the bad news: until congress and/or the courts are no longer held by nutjobs, I wouldn’t expect either to do anything to fix this.

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      they’re too busy outlawing porn and forcing the 10 commandments into classrooms to deal with any actual problems

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        Because they made the real problems and love the real problems. Fixing them would tave away their moneyand power.

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      Even that lie is something they only ever say after they fail to pass legislation at the national level.

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    Okay so wtf does woke mean then? I thought woke was when Spider-Man is black. What does that have to do with banking?

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    Why would Patriotic Pro Life Republicans care about National Security? National Security is WOKE!

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    A few years ago, a friend was telling me about how much access to the financial system is a problem for (legal) sex workers. I wonder if this law protects them too.

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      It looks like it might to me unless there’s a quantitative, impartial, and risk based reason or a “rating, scoring, analysis, tabulation, or action that considers a social credit score” the decision to deny them credit would be illegal for my understanding. Unless there’s some justifiable monetary reason for them to deny service legal sex workers should be covered.

      HB 3 Florida 2023 session

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    From what I was able to ascertain it seems like the law still enables denial of service on risk based standards, which should enable banks the deny service to the criminal enterprises the Treasury fears.

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        “the risk that international drug traffickers, transnational organized criminals, terrorists, and corrupt foreign officials will use the U.S. financial system to launder money, evade sanctions, and threaten our national security.”

        Not that climate change doesn’t increase the propensity of events with national security implications. But given the Treasury’s examples I think the environmental policy aspects of the regulation aren’t their major concern. Their ire seems to be at individuals or groups committing acts that violate established law.