I get why things like hot dogs or bratwurst are readily available as streetfood, it’s logistically easy - but so is soup! You need like a pot, maybe two if you’re getting crazy with it, maybe some bread rolls and that’s it. It’s cheap to make, cheap to buy, you could get hot soup on a cold day to warm you up or something like a gazpach or okroshka on a cold day to have a chilling meal. They’re stupidly easy to make, all the ingredients basically cost zilch, very easy to adjust for all kinds of different dietary needs if you offer some sort of toppings optionally instead of throwing it all in there.

So why isn’t there more soup? It’s a style of meal you can find in basically any cuisine yet in all my travels I remember like two instances where I could just get a soup. What drives streetfood and why is soup shafted?

  • quarrk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    Salmon soup (lohikeitto) is common to find in most Finnish markets and restaurants. Usually exactly as you described, large vats of soup and bowls that are quickly served to each person.

    Another perfect food on a cold Finnish winter day is rice pudding (riisipuuro). It has all the advantages of soup but it’s also sticky, so no concern of clumsily spilling soup while wearing thick gloves/mittens.

    Ramen, pho, and other soup styles are also common streetfoods (not in Finland) for the benefits you mention

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    4 months ago

    It can be done and is done in Finland, or at least Helsinki – there are a bunch of stands where you can get a salmon soup by the docks. I think a would-be soup vendor in, say, burgerland, is up against cultural expectations about soup, namely that it comes in cans and sucks and you only eat it when you’re sick.

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    It’s not really a thing in the global north, but in many places in the global south you’ll find street vendors selling soup and other whole ass meals.

    First reason that comes to mind I think is how many (official or ersatz) public spaces to sit down and eat (you can’t really eat soup on the go) exist, and also how soup-centered the local food ways are.

    I’ll go to my university’s library to see if they have anything on the anthropology of street food, and report back.

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    Soup is mostly water. Water is big and heavy. It can spill. Burns can be devastating. If you have a big pot you need a very flat stable surface to heat it.

    Sausages can be cooked as you need them but you can’t keep topping up your soup all day. You need to make the correct quantity to begin with. Which means waste is likely.

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      4 months ago

      Half these criticisms feel odd. I can’t manufacture new hotdogs in my street food stand, they’re coming from somewhere offsite anyways, seems easy enough to replicate with soup.

      Cooking is just sort of dangerous to begin with, I feel like “Stable surface, possibly a cage, for big pot” is rather more a solved issue

      I think you might be on to something with the water thing though, that could be a problem. 800 hotdogs seems a lot easier to transport than 400L of soup.

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      Yeah, there’s logistical problems with, say, a soup stand: How do you deliver the soup to people? Reusable ceramic bowls? Those are gonna break eventually, needing replacement, and they’re also heavy as shit. Plastic? That’s not super good for environments, people will toss them in the trash, and plastic isn’t reusable in the long run on such a small scale. The ideal bowl would be like what Tim Hortons had for a while, bread bowls, but that itself is another logistical problem of producing your own bread bowls. Edit: Fuck me was this back in 2001? I’m turning to dust by the day

      There’s logistical reasoning as to why you typically get soup at kitchens.