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Joice Messier read Adorno and decided to give up and support the system (just as Adorno intended)
I do absolutely despise Adorno and the liberals who mindlessly quote him.
do nothing. everything will work out in the end, just like in the movies.
Yeah! Anyway, gonna watch ‘the zone of interest’ now.
Something something capitalism absorbs subversion instead of suppressing it
Pritzker is pretty much Bail Organa, super wealthy, giant liberal, opposes the fascist takeover but balks at the more radical elements aligned with him and if not killed in a super weapon demonstration would just be the superficially nicer regime that protects capital.
So does that mean President Mecha Hitler is gonna nuke him (and a lot of other people) in a decade
Mind you even star wars liberal politicians like Mon Mothma and Bail Organa, literally covertly send ships (recorded as being stolen by “pirates”) and prisoners to the rebels, as well as massive financial support. Like not even the most radical elected official in america does that.
I love the show for what it is, but that’s definitely part of its liberal fantasy, a way to project the desire for the ghouls from the party they support to secretly be on their side
of course that baggage was already there from the prequels. Lucas might have been imagining the Viet Cong in the 70s but those late 90s/mid 2000s scripts were pretty firmly the ramblings of a rich dude a little too bought in to the idea that Cheyney just tricked everyone into invading Iraq and not that the structure of the political system itself meant that liberals genuinely saw it as being in their best interests
it’s sort of a minor error for Andor though, people wanting to use quotes like this are at least directly contradicted by the actual events of the show. Mothma doesn’t do much more than blow hot air to a dwindling senate and that still gets her marked for assassination, and she doesn’t respond by coming back to apologize for hurting the fascists’ feelings
Ah yes. Jimmy Kimmel. Hero of the working class.
Well the left (of Ronald Reagan) does not exist and cannot be acknowledged except as a threat, so it must just be cosmic forces and its inevitable. Anyway, time to go do some more HUAC
Not cringe, but I maintain my criticism of its “anti-authoritarian” politics, because if it were truly Marxist revolutionary agitprop, there wouldn’t be a ton of people internalizing “wow the empire is just like the Soviet Union/russia and Ukraine” without a second thought.
Really wish they had a character drop the Engles equivalent of the Engles quote.
“Resistance is the most authoritarian thing ever, it’s using blasters and photon torpedos…”
I mean, the parallels to the Irish struggle for independence and Jewish resistance to the holocaust could not be more explicit. I think Americans are just uneducated and bad at understanding media. This is why Authors like Steinbeck had to put in sections explaining that capitalism was bad. They knew they couldn’t trust people to understand even the simplest layer of symbolism.
It could definitely be more explicit, otherwise there wouldn’t be comparisons to maidan, the evil Soviets in Hungary, tinyman square, etc. part of it is the audience, that can’t be fixed with media alone, but the authors also had a role in making it vague enough to apply to any struggle against authority, real or imagined. One of the writers literally was filming a propaganda documentary in Ukraine while writing s2
Robert Reich also quoted that line in a video recently
The world is healing
Nemik’s speech wasn’t even the good one
It really was and I was always on this shit. Its not even a good show. Its fine, at best, and the prison escape was fucking stupid
Booooooo
Disagree
Season 2 was mid and felt very “straight white men” written for the lack of a better term. And not just even on a leftist aesthetic level. Especially the female characters are quite lacking. Like spending 1 season and three episodes with the mothma family in focus and then mon just vanishes basically until she remembers she has to care about ghorman now because plot and her domestic life is suddenly like not present any more.
Or Bix being turned into #girlfriend or the shitshow they did with cinta, or axing jessi, etc… And that leaves out the whole continuity issues with rogue one, which to be fair, I dont really care about.
Don’t even get me started on Wilmon/Saw and how his radicalization arc is nothing but a plot device to get him on Ghorman with nothing different, he’s not even addicted to huffing space gas :(
hell nah
