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What is a pupusa? Is it a sandwich? But it’s tortilla so is it a taco? A quesadilla? A flavoured fat tortilla? Is it a dorito?
It’s a pupusa. There’s already a word for it, why do we need to give it another?
So we can fill out the phrase all pupusas are ___ but not all ____ are pupusas
it’s delicious as fuck that’s what it is next caller please
I believe that is a calzone.
it is a griddle cake with a filling
I will often take two hotdogs, cut them in half longitudinally, and lay those out on two pieces sandwich bread.
Ergo…hotdog sandwich.
Yes my fat ass has done this and added cheese, making it a cheese dog sandwich
You get two hotdogs in the time it usually takes to eat one. It’s called efficiency, my friend. We’re visionairies.
Well im gonna really embarrass my young fatter self, when I was a kid i used to add a third slice of bread and make a double stack sandwich. Why would my parents allow this?
calories are calories and you’re just happy they’re eating?
Done it. Will do it again. Zero regrets.
Counter arguments, a hotdog is a sausage, the bread is a condament. When you buy hotdogs at the store you’re taking about the pack, when you’re cooking a hotdog, you’re taking about the sausage being cooked. A hotdog on the grill is not in the bun. When you’re eating a hotdog without a bun, you’re still eating a hotdog.
In the other direction, a hotdog with mustard is still called a hotdog meaning the mustard has no say in the state of the hotdog.
Furthermore, we have splitlink sandwiches so a sausage as sandwich still needs the sandwich modifier. When I say “hotdog sandwich” it’s bothersome because it conjures the idea of hot dogs between two slices of bread.
So if a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the bread, and a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the mustard, than the bread plays the same role and becomes a condament for the eating of a hotdog that belongs firmly in the category of sausage.
Spare points to back this up is taco, chicken taco, fish taco, street taco, all need the modifier “taco”. If I say we’re having fish and serve a tuna taco, I’ve not given you the accurate information. The same goes for wraps, without the “wrap” modifier you get different information. In reverse, we do not ask for a bun to get a hotdog. Following along that line, we have split bun sandwiches which use a bun and are not explicitly hotdogs.
Lastly, with this information you can order the incredibly cursed, split link split bun sandwich with mustard which presents as a cut hotdog with mustard but is in fact an entirely different thing all together.
I will fight you on this.
A hotdog is a specific type of soft sausage inside a bun. If you have just the sausage part you would not call that a hotdog (at least not where I live) but a frankfurter (we have a special word for this type of sausage).
The bread needs to be a certain shape as well. Long round and thin. Either one where it goes in from the top (sliced by length)
like this or pushed in the same way as the longer axis of bread goes like this
.If you put it inside two slices of bread you made a frankfurter sandwich. So thus it needs to be the right sausage in the right bread to be considered a hotdog.
See, I think this may be a regional issue more than a semantic issue because around these parts that horrifying electric bun spike is the quickest way to not get invited to the next barbique.
We usually don’t even make hotdogs on barbeques. I cannot recall the last time we did. Balkan grill has so many better options to choose from.
Balkan grill
So I looked this up and found a restaurant in Germany? The food looks amazing and I’m going to have to find recipes for half their menu.
So the way this discussion is going, it reminds me of an old cookbook that describes curry as “a gravy laden with spices and made with the milk of coconut.” While the description conveys the details well, I don’t think any sane person would say gravy and curry are the same category. The issue comes from the difference in cultural meanings and the way languages steal words. My classifications are based off the mid western American concepts of hotdog and there for would not work outside of a region familiar with it.
I guess the only good option to finally solvr this debate would be a latin taxonomy like we do for animals and plants.
I don’t think any sane person would say gravy and curry are the same category.
Why? Culinary, curry and gravy are quite similar, and serve similar functions. Obviously they don’t taste all that similar, but I don’t think that really matters much when you consider the vast variety of flavors that curries come in.
And actually, now that I think of it, Japanese curries do share quite a few flavors with a Western meat-dripping-based gravy. In fact, I’m pretty sure the directions on the package curry cubes I get from the Asian grocer refer to the curry sauce as “gravy”. So yeah, actually, plenty of sane people put curry and gravy in the same category, for solid reasons.
A hot dog is essentially an eclair with a firmer-textured filling.
Hot dogs are specific type of sandwich. Tacos are a sub genre of sandwich. 🥪🌭🌮
Made this months ago
forbecause of @Chickenstalker@lemmy.worldIf you try to give me a pizza with lettuce on it hands will be thrown (up in the air in disgust)
Sounds like you’ve never had a taco pizza, and I’m sad for you
It’s not my first choice but I fuck with a cheeseburger pizza:
The lettuce must be added after cooking but it’s a fun crunch
sorry to say it but you’re just subjectively wrong
That aint lettuce though
is this a language/culture thing? because rucola is absolutely in the “a kind of lettuce” class of vegetable here, together with romaine and kale.
It is in that class but when you say lettuce I imagine iceberg lettuce or something similar. You know things actually called lettuce.
yeah we call it “rucola lettuce”
In english? Because we only call it rucola.
Oh fuck yeah, lemme drizzle some balsamic on that
I tried to downvote but got caught on “subjectively”.
Dammit, I can’t downvote, but I refuse to upvote either!
I tried to downvote but got caught on your username so I just doot dooted
my job here is done.
opinion, awaaaaay!
Lettuce, cucumber and Dijon mustard pizza
You monster
Indeed.
taco is a sandwich too
I’m here for this!
I get the whole “cube rule” thing, but a taco is FOLDED and a hot dog bun is CUT.
Mechanically these are very different required preparation steps.
Further, tacos use fried tortillas which are technically cake.
Hot dogs are not tacos. If you fry a cake, fold it, abc add toppings then that is a taco. When you cut into a bun and add toppings, that’s a sub. Hot dogs are subs, not tacos.
tacos use fried tortillas which are technically cake.
Absurd claim
While I appreciate the topological approach, I hold to a linguistic and practical reason for a hot dog, as it is usually eaten, not (typically) being a sandwich:
- what does it mean for a thing to be “sandwiched”? It means pressed on two sides, held together by the force of that pressure.
- what is the difference between a hot dog and a hero/po-boy/sub? Well, heros and po-boys are held together by the bread. You can turn them on their side, and they should not fall apart, because the primary force holding them together is pressure on either side of the bread. Hot dogs, at least in my limited experience, are defined by their toppings, which are placed atop the frankfurter, and held in place by gravity alone.
As such I give my typology: if the primary force holding your dish together is pressure on two sides from a retaining material? Sandwich. If the primary force holding it together is gravity? That bread is being used as a trencher. As such, most hot dogs, most tacos, bread bowls and other such things are all basically just a version of a bread bowl or bread plate. For this reason, I call them “Trenchers”. Pizza is not primarily held together by gravity or by sandwiching forces, and thus is normally neither of these. Pizza’s primary force maintaining its integrity is the cheese and other sticky things holding onto any toppings. As such, pizza would be equivalent to toast with spread, cheese, and other toppings, similar to garlic bread. All functionally just “adorned breads”.
So, to reiterate, I don’t disagree that hot dogs can be sandwiches, but in general practice, I do not believe they qualify, much like most tacos do not qualify.
Gonna need an explanation on the tortillas. Wikipedia says flatbread.
What’s wild is that tortillas are so varied, Mexicans eat very thin yellow corn, Central Americans like white corn and make them thick, and South Americans just go full anarchy and make em extra fat and call them arepas.
Im partial to the Central American think ones, and if you fill em with cheese and meat you got pupusas
Do not call my arepas fat tortillas. They are separate foodstuffs though composed of the same ingredients.
Tortillas are pancakes
The word tortilla is derived from the Spanish word torta, meaning roughly ‘cake’ or ‘pie’, plus the diminutive suffix -illa; therefore tortilla can be translated as ‘little cake’.
If flatbread then maybe tacos are pizza.
Flour tortillas are definitely flatbread.
Corn tortilla… I’m not sure. I really just don’t know, but I’d still consider a taco to be a sandwich.
Since when is cake fried?
Since the south got ahold of it:
Mmmm jizz filled!
Damn Australians!
Or is it Antarctica?
Which south?
so if I fold hotdog in a piece of sandwich bread; is that now a taco?
If it’s Subway bread, which is cake, then yes.
But subway bread is tubular, so doesn’t fold in a way that contains things
Could be unbaked Subway dough fashioned into a flatter
breadcake 🤷Fairy muff
I can’t argue with that and accept it, yes
Ah a fellow cube ruler
Ah a fellow cube ruler
So a soup with noodles is nachos but a soup without noodles is a salad.
What is the definition of noodles in this scenario?
Is a Potato soup a salad and a Gnocchi soup Nachos?
Is it the adding of carbs in general or is it specifically noodles?
What about wild rice soup? Wild rice is a seed. So is it a Salad or a Nacho?
Also, why is a Turducken a salad? Prepared correctly its a sushi or even a calzone.
Also also the cube itself, does it have to be a carb outer layer? Pigs in a blanket are considered a sushi but what of smoked sausages wrapped in bacon?
Potatoes are a starch, ergo, nachos.
That actually made me angry.
Unfortunately, it’s the only classification system that makes sense in our chaotic world.
No it doesn’t, neither culinary nor linguistically. The cube rule was made specifically to piss people off
Tacos have loose meat
Those chicken strip tacos are liars.
Sandwiches can have “loose meat” as well. Cheese steak and chopped cheese are two that come to mind.
New way burgers are sandwich and they have loose meat.
So tell me, have you heard about the great sandwich war of 1958?
Of course the americans were offended the europeans had better sandwiches.
Naturally.
I mean, this is a common prawn sandwich from us in Sweden:
You can get them anywhere and they not only taste great, but smell fresh and lovely.
Though, I can absolutely see a reason why this should not be allowed on a plane; shellfish allergy.
Taco is just a sandwich, silly.
Hot dog is like it’s own category. You can make all kinds of dogs. Hot dog, veggie dog, smokie dog, chicken dog… If it’s got a weiner then it’s a dog.
And they all qualify as sandwich
Only if you eat them in a bun
It is not heresy, and I shall not repent.
European hotdogs are soup
