Since our front page has about a 60% parity with theirs (don’t think I didn’t notice!) it may be good to offer some life rafts.

On the other hand, there is a lot of reddit brain over there. A lot would flip out over no downvotes or not being allowed to say certain slurs.

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    it’s weird because r/trueanon is like a mix of hexbears who still use reddit, former hexbears who were naughty and went there as a life raft, libs, and this disgusting tiny minority of stupidpol reactionaries and redscare fascists (who are mercilessly found out and generally booted when mods catch on).

    there are some really cool people there though i wish would come here and hang out with us (the ones i like are all women of various sorts though)

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        They kinda won the Taylor Lorentz thread which was one of their more recent struggle sessions. Caring about minorities in the abstract is easy, being asked to actually mask up to protect disabled people is… also easy, but that won’t stop most people from acting like it’s hard.

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        yeah and i think they are planning on bring back the bots to detect them. usually those at the bottom of a thread with negative upvotes are always stupidpol posters

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        Tfw you can’t quit browsing the slopyard but they’ve literally IP and hardware banned you from making an account so you can’t yell at people

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            I don’t fuckin know, gotta be mobile device HW IDs and MAC addresses or something.

            All I know is I got permbanned like 10 years ago for getting drunk one night and reporting every post in a fash sub (circlejerkaustralia), which went to the admins and got me banned for report abuse. Every single account I’ve ever made since has been permbanned within 2 weeks for evasion. Completely different burner emails, phone on wifi, phone off wifi, work laptop while actually in the office - doesn’t matter, all get banned some time between 1 hour and 2 weeks after creation.

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    I’m willing to let them in but they need to accept they are LIBs on the topic of masking. I want congressbaseballfan back here though.

    Edit: on the other hand, I don’t know what this was all about but that’s one of their most active and interesting posters, it would really suck if some of the best users from over there have legit grievances over here that are keeping them from joining. I feel like Hexbear is usually pretty good about dealing with DM harassment, even when the perpetrators are known and respected users, so it seems odd.

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          That’s true (and I’ve reposted some stuff from there myself) but I think the tone of the communities is wildly different. Hexbear is much more millennial - gen X, a lot more long posts, lots of nerdy discussions. /r/196 is clearly much younger, all discussion is superficial, and obviously it’s full of chasers.

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              It’s not even about the liberalism. Every discussion there tends to be people giving their opinions in the form of hot takes, speaking confidently (and often in memespeak) when making statements that deserve to be backed up by sources. They have this way of talking that really lends itself to confirmation bias because each side of a conversation makes inflammatory claims that may sound conclusive, so whichever side the majority agrees with (on the basis of sounding nuanced and correct) gets anointed. Case in point: https://hexbear.net/post/4476685

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                  I think most of our struggle sessions have been on topics where both sides agreed on the facts but disagreed on the prescriptions to be derived from those facts, or on something more aesthetic/symbolic. In those cases it’s really not like one can make arguments that are backed up by much evidence, except maybe trying to gather a lot of people’s opinions so one can say “most people are okay with this” or the opposite.

                  On that subreddit, people often get away with making factually incorrect claims because of the nuance fetish. See the thread I linked where the entire motivation of Operation Prosperity Guardian is glossed over and dismissed in the name of finding a reason why Things Are Complicated:tm:

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          Sometimes I source memes from tumblr, just to add a little more variety but its a bit of a pain.

          I heard once that facebook ate up MySpace users by having new FB users give them their MySpace log in credentials, then Facebook would scrape their myspace follows and display new MySpace posts on the user’s facebook feed.

          I think hexbear (and really, more the fediverse overall) could learn from that. Like, if there was a “submit reblog” button where I could drop a URL from tumblr (or I guess even ecks the everything app) and it converts the links and images and text into a lemmy post, that would be really useful in dragging the overall lemmy culture away from its reddit origins

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      Could have been a great time for a bit where they only allow text posts titled “I disavow” with no body text for 24 hours

      And the only comments allowed? Believe it or not…