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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 7 days ago

Even the NRA is against Trump team plan to ban trans people from owning firearms

www.independent.co.uk

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Even the NRA is against Trump team plan to ban trans people from owning firearms

www.independent.co.uk

return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 7 days ago
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Second Amendment groups fire back at Justice Department over potential proposals to block trans people from possessing guns
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  • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    Saw tons of comments the last couple days about “Where’s the NRA to defend trans gun owners huh??!?”

    Well here’s your answer - they said 2nd Amendment rights are for everyone and due process matters. Sometimes being cynical is just hurting your perspective.

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      Yah, there’s a large difference between cynicism and realism.

      They’re defending their market, not the rights of trans Americans. If they actually cared about freedom and the constitution they would be uniting every gun owner to march on Washington and demand a president who follows the constitution, you know, the whole THING the NRA was supposed to represent.

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      Sure, but they’re not defending trans people, they defending guns.

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        Well they arent a trans lobbying group. They’re a gun ownership and gun rights lobbying group.

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      Eh if all Trans people where black the NRA would have a different tune.

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        I’m OK with the NRA not being hypocritical this time. Doesn’t mean anyone should expect anything from them.

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          Yeah, I fully expect this to be lip service. They’ve been married to the Republican Party for too long, they have too much money they’re going to lose access to if they actually defend a trans gun owner who loses their guns or is denied a gun purchase.

          If I’m wrong I’ll be pleasantly surprised, but there’s a reason Pink Pistols is its own thing and not just a club run by the NRA.

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        If your grandma had wheels she could be a Go-Bot, so what?

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    This shouldn’t surprise anyone. The NRA (or its political arm) is a lobbying group for the gun industry. Banning any group from buying guns hurts the gun industry.

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      They didn’t complain, or at least loud enough for me to hear, when he banned some gun accessories on his last term. Was it bump stocks or something?

      None of his base did, despite losing their shit about Obama and Joe “going to do it”, even though they didn’t

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      Especially a group of people who suddenly realize they’re in danger and are scooping up guns in large numbers right now.

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    Ive said for years, the moment the GOP gets enough power they will be alllll for gun control.

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    The know MAGA is all about the slippery slope, and if they make it illegal for one group, it will be illegal for almost everybody within five years.

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    They banned guns when the black Panthers had them.

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      The NRA did not do that. California did that.

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        The NRA fully supported the bill

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          Which changes nothing. The NRA didnt do that nor were they particularly powerful in the 1970s.

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    Many trans people are white.

    I remember the NRA’s response to the murder of Philando Castile.

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    Wait, did the NRA just do something that wasn’t shitty for once? Broken clocks, amr?

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    Is the NRA normally transphobic? They defend gun rights. This threatens gun rights.

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      I assume many of their members are transphobic but I think they care more about gun rights.

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        Exactly the organization itself is doing whatI expect it to do.

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    Wow. Can anyone say “unconstitutional, but who’s gonna stop him?”

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    We’ll see… first it’s trans, then it’s gays, then it’s immigrants and now the nra lost a bunch of customers. They’re thinking big picture.

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      Is trans people, who are ‘mentally unwell’, which will later include people diagnosed with trump derangement syndrome, which will be 75% of the US population by 2028.

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    Liberals need to stop vilifying the NRA and realize they are good.

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      poe’s law.

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    Let’s be honest here, support is s strong word and we all know the limited support is limited to white trans people.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

    The Pink Pistols is an LGBTQ gun rights organization in the United States and Canada. Their motto is “Pick on someone your own caliber”.[1]

    I expect that this is kind of up their alley, too.

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      For some reason I always thought their slogan was ‘armed gays bash back.’ Maybe I’ve just seen stickers on things of that slogan paired with Pink Pistols logos a lot.

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      That motto is pretty badass honestly

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    Well obviously, the only thing the NRA has ever cared about is selling guns. They may couch it it reasons like freedom or safety but the real reason has always just been profits.

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      Not really, that happened in 1977. See the “history” section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association?wprov=sfti1

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        what about in the last few generations

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          As I stated, the change was in 1977, and the NRA became a gun industry shill after that. The comment I was replying to said it had “never” been anything but that, when for the first hundred years it was an overall nonpartisan and anodyne organization.

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      Well, not exactly https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

      Also ironically the gun laws that Republicans poke fun at in California are thanks to Reagan.

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        The Mulford act was passed in 1967, when the NRA was still a nonpartisan organization that promoted gun safety and responsible ownership. In 1977 there was an internal coup that replaced the leadership with a group of second amendment extremists (or gun industry shills) who proceeded to turn the NRA hard to the right.

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          I wish the NRA continued what it used to be.

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