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The UK’s Online Safety Act doesn’t just age-gate porn; it blocks material deemed “harmful” to minors. Days after the law went into effect, reports of non-explicit content on social media getting blocked in the region started to crop up. Subreddits from r/IsraelCrimes to r/stopsmoking are now walled in the UK. Video games, Spotify, and dating apps have instituted or will institute age checks.
Given the SCOTUS age verification decision [June '25], Stabile fears that people [in the US] will go “mask off” in the fall and spring, when state legislatures start getting back together. “People are going to attempt to restrict the internet even more aggressively,” Stabile said. “I think people are going to work to restrict all sorts of content, particularly LGBTQ content, but also content that is broadly defined as any sort of threat or propaganda to minors.” Other experts Mashable spoke to agree with him.
“I’m going to jump to the end step,” [Eric Goldman, law professor at the Santa Clara University School of Law] said. “The end step is that most online users are going to be required to age authenticate most of the time they visit websites. That’s going to become the norm.” In a paper he wrote, Goldman called these statutes “segregate-and-suppress” laws.
The stated reason behind these laws is to “protect children.” But as journalist Taylor Lorenz pointed out, in the UK, age verification is already preventing children from accessing vital information, such as about menstruation and sexual assault.
“When we see crackdowns on spaces on the internet, we’re essentially stripping away that potential for self-actualization,” Goldman said. We’ve reached the dystopian stage of the internet, he added.
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All these porn bans are going to do is send people to more questionable places looking for it. Kind of like when they banned booze, drugs, and abortions.
Here’s the thing. When prohibition took effect in the US, anyone with half an idea on how fermentation and distillation worked made their own alcohol (I made my own ‘prison hooch’ at home using EC-1118 yeast, sugar, and fruit juice. It is fucking EASY to do). The problem with stuff like this is that some people often produced toxic stuff, since they had no idea how to separate ethanol from methanol and other toxic byproducts during distillation, and this shit got people killed. Not only that, the complete lack of regulation (since it was 100% illegal after all) meant that people adulterated the booze with all manner of bullshit. It was a common trope in prohibition era and post-prohibition films to showcase it.
With porn? Look, the porn industry is rife with abuse for everyone involved. But having a legal industry and legal sites like pornhub and many others means one thing: The shit isn’t going to be illegal. There were actual porn videos featuring underaged girls on pornhub, and those were removed almost immediately upon discovery. Dark web stuff is… holy shit! One main reason why I don’t do much dark web stuff is very specifically that I fear I will click on a link that’ll take me to some child porn site… and the stories I heard on true crime videos show just how horrific many of those pornographers are. They are far more than just naked kids posing, some of them involve almost killing children.
And banning porn will only make it that there are no protections whatsoever against anyone, be they adult or otherwise. If there is one good thing about modern porn is that a lot of it (and I would even say the best) is amateur made. With the people involved all willingly making the stuff to post online.
It’s not about protecting the children and never has been with the Party of Pedos. It’s about control.
Outlaw porn. Then start calling LGBTQ folks pornographic. Now it’s illegal to be gay. You KNOW they are going in that direction.
Stephen Fry’s character in V For Vendetta is a perfect depiction of this
Comrade, it seems you have just committed a thought crime. The thought police are already coming for you. Please do not resist. :)
Pornographic content is literally & figuratively the canary in the coal mine of the internet.
We need to consider building on and spreading the word about other protocols like Tor, Yggdrassil etc etc. Show people that the Commons cannot be stolen again.
'Need" means what? I can’t hear you.
“Cotton” swabs his ear with a Bowling Pin
I think the problem is that most of the people who have casually heard of Tor already associate it with CSAM
good thing there are alternatives, like the aforementioned yggdrasil and i2p, though ygg doesn’t guarantee anonymity
Now it’s all gone. I’ll have to buy from resellers, like I’m some kind of drug addict lol.
They will come up with any excuse for total control. I can just see how they look at China and they are burning inside like how come they have everything under control, and our peasants still have freedom of thought, how should this be understood?
Dicks are going to destroy the internet, regardless of pr0n.
Kids shouldn’t use the internet without a parent or teacher monitoring them. We can blame big tech for targeting our most vulnerable and pandering to them, kids are very easy to manipulate vis-à-vis a great target to advertisers, they will fill participation metrics, they will sit on one site for hours. And our solution is to keep the unsafe pseudo kids park online while handing power to faceless corps who we are to trust with our private and identifiable data? Roblox for example is an open pedo network targeting kids, this won’t be fixed. The sad truth is many children are encountering sexual content through these online play grounds made for kids.
Blaming is literally just relabeling the excuse to do what they accuse you of “not doing” while actually brainwashing anyone not paying attention.
Usually because they just left their third job and are driving to their first. Apparently they all forgot what to sleep was and never woke the fuck up. Pun intended.
“Poorly Implemented Attempt to Censor Porn will Ruin Corporate Internet”
There, FTFY
Poorly implemented? There is no good implementation of censorship or any other restriction on freedom of expression. All attempts to do so are dangerous, existential threats.
Yeah, but it’s like it’s total slop on top of the censorship part. It’s literally adding insult to injury.
We have the dark web as backup.
“This isn’t the end of a battle,” he said. “This is the beginning of one.”
I love that line so much, it goes hard and is kinda punk as fuck.
The first time this PII is leaked about some politician’s online search history, it will all get repealed.
Wanna stop this? Get some whale to buy up the data and find people pushing this shit and any mass adoption for these things will die. Politicians like to eat up religious lobbyist’s shit until it’s used to expose their less savory activities to the greater population.
It was porn watching that initially pushed the internet technology to be better. Everything comes full circle.
It literally only* affects corporate websites.
I knew what you meant to say, and now I’m left wondering how clumsy my fingers must be if I can accurately read a typo where 75% of the letters are wrong.
Context :) fixed
or we could just ban their ip range from every website idk
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