All these years later and he still doesn’t understand that no means no.
Could someone explain what’s happening to a non-american? I was under the impression that this Madmani gentleman had already won the mayoral race. Are they having another election for something else??
We have elections over who will be the candidate for each party called Primaries. Mamdani won the primary for the democratic party.
Cuomo is now saying that although he lost to Mamdani in the primary, he’s going to run independent of parties.
This is pissing people off for a few reasons.
One of the biggest reasons though, we’ve had years where we were told to, “Vote Blue No Matter Who” because undeniably the republicans are worse. Now that an actual leftist won their primary though, Cuomo (a long time democrat) is now spoiling the vote by running independently.
This is following a billionare stating he’ll give millions to anyone who has a shot of beating Mamdani.
It definitely appears Cuomo would rather have a republican win than to let a leftist win.
Mamdani won the primary election. In the US parties don’t choose their candidates for elections (in b4 “but superdelegates!”) like you see in other electoral systems where an internal party committee selects a candidate list. So this election was determining who was going to be the Democratic candidate for the actual election.
But New York has some weird fusion laws that allow people to run on multiple party lines so Cuomo, even though he lost the Democratic nomination, can still run in the general election.
He is quite desperate to be a mayor. Maybe try a smaller town.
So, he’s going to divide the Rightwing vote.
He can be the third party where his wife and me are having sex and hes the cuck
you think cuomo will split the vote for zohran? he’s probably gonna screw over eric adams by running independent
Haha I wondered how they would try to stop Mamdani becoming mayor.
It’s insane to me they would rather split the vote and put one of Trump’s puppets in office rather than move their platform slightly left of center.
MO of the DNC for many years now.
And after Mamdani hired one of the DNC’s consultants to
nerf all his policiesappeal to the centrists who have thus far refused to endorse him.It’s almost as though the centrist wing of the party does absolutely nothing in good faith and will do everything they can to ratfuck anyone to their left.
I’m not sure this is party desperation so much as it is Cuomo’s ego. I’d call it 75% ego at least.
That’d be blaming the one bad egg, not the the institutions. Neoliberals will ally themselves with fascists to fight socialists. But I guess it’s possible. Also good strategy, blame the rogue politician instead of their moral bankruptcy.
DNC normally "3rd parties don’t function in our two party system, there’s no point in voting for them
DNC after losing their own primary: 3rd party it is
“Vote Blue No Matter Who” reverts to “Party Unity My Ass” as soon as centrists don’t get 100% of everything they want.
These “” seem to have fallen from around the word centrists
They have not.
DNC normally "3rd parties don’t function in our two party system, there’s no point in voting for them
That part is just reality.
That’s why they sued to keep De La Cruz off the ballot in swing states.
It’s almost like mayoral politics in one of the most populous cities on the planet is somewhat different than state and federal level politics.
Who knew
What a goddamn pussy
What an absolute chode
Don’t you mean taint?
Gooch.
The Democratic Party WILL rig the general election. Hell, they’ll probably work with Republicans to get their candidate in over Mamdani.
Who owns the machines? Is the software audited? Are there tabulation servers involved?
I don’t know if they’ll rig the actual vote directly but the DNC will most certainly spend hundreds of millions to make him look like the devil incarnate leading up to the election even if it means getting a Republican in office. They already did this in 2016 and 2024.
In all the times I’ve posted these questions, nobody has ever answered them.
New York State Board of Elections
Probably because it’s just posted on a .gov site.
Republican
both cumuo and ADAMS is doing it for the gop.
If Mamdani holds out until November, the rest of the country will see that it is possible to vote for a fair shake. If he gets buried, I think voting will be the least of our worries.
Remember kids: Vote blue no matter who only applies to progressives.
Want to run a campaign against the duly nominated candidate?
Only if you’re a neoliberal sex pest. Otherwise you want republicans to win.
You think the DNC is pushing this? Or is this just throwing shit to throw shit?
Vote blue still applies here. I don’t know who told you it doesn’t.
Someone needs to tell that to Cuomo.
Cuomo can fuck right off. And he’s declared himself not part of the DNC.
Well, let’s see what happens. If the Democratic establishment pushes Mamdani hard, this will be true.
The person you’re replying to is just used to the establishment fighting against progressive insurgents.
You think the DNC is pushing this?
I think they’re going to be more open about doing so as the election approaches.
Vote blue still applies here.
Progressives step aside when centrists win the primaries that the party went to court for the right to rig.
the party went to court for the right to rig.
Not a fair interpretation of an argument made by a single DNC lawyer in a single context. Also, the primary is over and Mamdani won.
Not a fair interpretation of an argument made by a single DNC lawyer in a single context.
A completely accurate representation, made by a lawyer representing the party and setting precedent they have taken advantage of ever since.
Also, the primary is over and Mamdani won.
I’m not sorry that the party’s machinations against the left fail sometimes.
For a second I had this confused with the Toronto mayoral election, where the former sex pest mayor is rumored to be considering re-running against the person who supplanted him last election
It also reminds me of the incumbent NDP ridings we lost to the cons because liberal voters don’t do strategic voting, yet they expect progressives to.
Vote progressive, the platform is impressive. The people aren’t oppressive and their art is more expressive - their passion is expressive but the message isn’t agressive.
For the people needs to be accomplished By the people.
Thank you Robin Williams Batty.
There is exactly 0 comparison more honorable.
The general election won’t have ranked choice. Adams and Cuomo may end up splitting the “willing to vote for corrupt dirtbag” ticket and let Mamdani cruise to victory.
We can dream.
I expect one or the other will get pressured/bribed into dropping out.
Yes, that’s probably correct. It’ll be late in the race, because both of them are pig headed and want the other one to do it. That will only drag down whomever does end up staying in. It’ll be a glorious game of political chicken. I’m ordering all the popcorn now.
I thought the donors were going to pick one and push out the other, but web search indicates that hasn’t been successful yet. We’ll see.
They fight amongst themselves, too.
They’re all sociopaths. You can use that fact to predict how they function.
Yep, two shit bag neoliberals running I and an actual Republican.
This is both good for Mamdani and what will be used as an excuse when he wins.
Is the Republican even relevant in NYC this election? I saw this as Lieberman for Connecticut redux.
yes they have won NYC elections in the past, nyc has a habit of choosing a republican, or Democrat that works with republicans.
The Republican is the Guardian Angels guy from the 80s, he’s probably not relevant outside of Staten Island, and a few old cat ladies.
Careful. He has huge name recognition.
Not necessarily for good reasons, though. Particularly over the last decade or so.
He doesn’t even have the “just woke up from a 40-year coma” vote sewn up, since there’s a Cuomo running…
If there’s 3 “Democrats” running, he might be.
May it be so.
Won’t work. Democrats are like any other voting group: they stick with their party, no matter the majority candidate. Because losing to the enemy is worse than losing to an infra-party faction. This is how Trump got elected twice. It’ll happen again, because people are predictable.
Not true, unfortunately. In Buffalo, NY, traitor Byron Brown ran and won as a write in candidate after losing the Democratic mayoral primary to India Walton.
He’s just hoping that enough people vote for him that it’ll split the vote and that Adams will win. They’re liberals, they’d rather literal fascists win than leftists.
Even by running DNC is dumping their war chest on this fight. If Mamdani loses or fucks up, those are less funds in the DNC coffers and IMO draining those idiots of every cent is a valuable goal.
If the market doesn’t agree with a democratic victory centrists won’t abandon the market, they will abandon victory.
The Jill Stein approach then…
is any republican even campaigining, either one will try to give each other win, adams is clearly a republican.
No, I’m not that pessimistic. Their allegiance is to party loyalty, not an opposing political viewpoint like facism. The guy’s a true believer, and his intent isn’t to sabotage to Democratic Party but to reform it. I don’t agree with all of his positions, but I like him better than Cuomo right now. The real issue is that Cuomo isn’t a right-wing Nazi like the Far-Left want you to believe. Maintain your centricity and don’t get played into viewing things the way the media outlets and political parties want you to see them.
The real issue is that Cuomo isn’t a right-wing Nazi
He’s trying to split the vote as a spoiler candidate to allow the NAZI party win. Which makes him a NAZI collaborator.
No, he’s trying to win for his own ambition of power. Calling him a Nazi collaborator for that is idiotic. Just because what he’s doing helps Nazis doesn’t make him a collaborator. Grow the fuck up.
Sure is neat how voting third party suddenly isn’t collaboration.
Sure is neat how your argument has no relevance.
Anyone with the slightest criticism of biden or harris last year was called a trump supporter.
All the people that had criticized the “vote blue no matter who” line of the centrists as being destructive in the long run, especially as people here started touting completely deranged things along the line of “Yeah both Harris and Trump want a genocide, but Harris will make less bad of a genocide than Trump, so we should vote her.”, are now having the “told you so” moment.
The entire talk in the general election was nothing but gaslighting the voters who refused to vote for genocide. The entire claim of “party loyalty” and “change through the party is possible” was a set of lies peddled by the “centrists” that rather want a fascist win than a modest social democrat, who wants to observe basic laws of the US and basic international laws. Now that this “loyalty” goes the other way, the centrists just flipped the script, proving that none of their claims were serious to begin with.
This is relevant, as it proves that the Democratic party is not the vehicle through which to bring positive change, at least not until all the DNC ghouls are kicked out of the party, publicly shamed and stripped of any political influence. Maybe Mamdani is a step in that direction, but we see how the DNC ghouls are already fighting back, as they have one goal and one goal only. To help the oligarchy exploit the people.
If he knows what he is doing cannot possibly lead to his own success, splitting the blue vote can’t lead to him winning, then he is deliberately trying to put the nazis in power over his citizens knowing some of them will be harmed. He’s absolutely a collaborator.
I’m sure he thinks he can win. But even if he didn’t, that doesn’t make him a collaborator. You misunderstand the term. It requires intent. You’re just trying to stack the deck by polarizing it. And I’m sure you think you’re doing the right thing. It’s just that your willful ignorance about the semantics of the term you’re using is harmful. Casting Cuomo as a Nazi gains you nothing but self-righteous purpose. Your cause isn’t righteous, no more than any other cause. You’re just an ideologue of a particular stripe. Have fun being that. From what I hear, it’s a lonely existence.
Clearly Cuomo’s loyalty is not to party because if it was he wouldn’t still be running. I also don’t believe Cuomo believes in anything but himself and his own advantage and the advantage of his big donors. However I’m not saying Cuomo is a far right Nazi. I’m just saying he’d rather a far right Nazi win than a leftist. Though arguably that would imply…
However I’d like to ask you to keep the personal insults to a minimum.
hes only running because the DNC saw madami was running and gaining in popularity.
This is the same Cuomo who appointed two republican judges as a f.u. to the Democratic party for pushing him out for his many crimes
That’s not how it played out in Buffalo NY in their last mayoral election. A socialist won the primary and the Democratic party launched a massive write-in campaign to keep their preferred liberal “Byron Brown” in power, to the point they were handing out stamps at voting locations so that they could be used to easily “write” him. They succeeded in keeping the socialist candidate out, and despite winning, their liberal candidate ended up resigning mid-term to take a cushy C-suite job instead.
Oh. So you mean they will vote for the democrat candidate Mamdani…… right? Right?
Yes, or just not vote at all.
And just like that, not voting became acceptable. Sure is neat what having a progressive nominee will do.
Progressives vote more as a voting block than conservatives do. Oh, were you hoping that would be a sick burn?
And you’re advocating for not voting because a progressive won the nomination.
What gave you the impression I was advocating for not voting? I said I expected some Democrats to not vote, not that I supported it.
Well, that was the assumption every time progressives warned centrists that people would stay home if the administration didn’t abandon their unconditional arms sales that everyone knew were being used for genocide.
You’re expecting greater benefit of the doubt than the anti-genocide left got from centrists. None is forthcoming. You were advocating against voting because you want sliwa to win.
It doubly won’t work since isn’t Eric Adams doing the same thing? Two establishment politicians running as independents?
